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  • DuckAdonis
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    #11
    And yes we all need to support the WBSS. That one almost got cancelled because "fans" would rather watch the more famous cherrypickers fight scrubs instead of the best fighting the best.

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    • BoxingIsGreat
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      #12
      Good luck with your petition.

      I'm gonna take my own initiative and boycott select mismatches like the one coming up next Saturday (Lomachenko-Crolla). This 'fight' is disgusting, with odds of 100-1, it's criminal. How is this acceptable?

      "Best" fighter in the world my ass. Is that how you prove it? Against a complete no-hoper, a first degree bum?

      Rooting for the unimaginable upset, or better yet, a cancellation or injury.
      Last edited by BoxingIsGreat; 04-07-2019, 12:45 PM.

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      • md40022
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        #13
        We all want the same thing. The mismatches and awful fight cards have to stop.

        That's why I'd really appreciate some of you taking 1 minute of your time to put your name on this. I will handle everything else. Let's stand together and give this a shot. It doesn't hurt to try, right? We threaten to cut the money off on January 1st.

        Anybody willing to take 1 minute, please copy this link into your web browser and simply "sign" your name to it.

        chng.it/hKnL5t5ZN5

        Once the signatures start to build up, I will see to it that all the promoters, networks, and sanctioning bodies that matter are aware of it. I'm willing to do all the leg work, I just need people to start putting their names to it... Takes 1 minute of time and doesn't cost a penny.

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        • boliodogs
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          #14
          Nice thought but this petition is too small to change anything and is a waste of time as are boycotts. The guys in power will do as they please. There are so many paying fans and they don't work as a unit. It makes no difference if a few hundred or a few thousand fans sign a petition or boycott a fight. They won't notice or care. If they start losing money on poor fights they might make better fights. That will only happen when everybody stops buying these fights not just a few hundred or a few thousand. I am sure Mikey vs Spence and Broner vs Pac both made big money.

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          • deathofaclown
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            #15
            Originally posted by md40022
            Us fans control the money. That's what we need to realize. The money that the promoters and networks are making isn't magically falling from the sky, it is our money that is coming out of our wallets.

            A little bit of initiative and a little bit of unity from the fans and things can and will change. People need to get behind this. The message is simple, the money stops on January 1st if things don't change.

            It takes one minute for someone to put their name on the list. I'll handle all the leg work of getting this to the promoters and networks. I just need names on the list - chng.it/KnL5t5ZN5


            Exactly.,This is what i always say. Without the fans, there is no revenue. Simple at that. Fans should stop tuning in and paying if they want to make a point.

            It'd soon force networks, promoters and fighters work together when they see their income becoming less and less.

            It'll never happen though sadly, the same reason we never really get major changes in things like politics, because you can't get enough people to work together and change things.

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            • deathofaclown
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              #16
              Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
              Good luck with your petition.

              I'm gonna take my own initiative and boycott select mismatches like the one coming up next Saturday (Lomachenko-Crolla). This 'fight' is disgusting, with odds of 100-1, it's criminal. How is this acceptable?

              "Best" fighter in the world my ass. Is that how you prove it? Against a complete no-hoper, a first degree bum?

              Rooting for the unimaginable upset, or better yet, a cancellation or injury.

              Well, Crolla won a final eliminator and become mandatory. That's part of the game. It is a mismatch in reality, but at least it isn't a handpicked one.

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              • md40022
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                #17
                Originally posted by deathofaclown
                Exactly.,This is what i always say. Without the fans, there is no revenue. Simple at that. Fans should stop tuning in and paying if they want to make a point.

                It'd soon force networks, promoters and fighters work together when they see their income becoming less and less.

                It'll never happen though sadly, the same reason we never really get major changes in things like politics, because you can't get enough people to work together and change things.

                I understand your point, but I disagree. People can't unite when it comes to politics because there's usually two (or more) totally different points of views on a lot of political topics. I might feel one way, and you may feel another way.

                As far as fans simply wanting the best fights possible? That's what ALL fans want, there is no other side to it... So failure of boxing fans to unite on this type of thing is just a combination of them being lazy and having that "nothing will ever change" attitude. If everybody stood up right now and lost that attitude though, things would change on the boxing landscape immediately.

                If DAZN, ESPN+, and Showtime all lost 500 subscribers on the same day, and the fans made it clear as to why they were cancelling, that would make them sweat a little bit ---- and we'd have the wheels in motion for Wilder/Fury/Joshua almost immediately..... and that's just 500 people. But it would give them a sense of this movement starting to ppick up some momentum and it would make them sweat enough to start to fix things.

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                • md40022
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                  #18
                  Cancellations of the subscription services trickle in a few here and a few there, but are offset by new subscribers. This wouldn't take a million people.

                  If 500 people agreed to cancel DAZN and ESPN+ on January 1st and specifically say it was because they weren't getting the fights they want. ESPN Corporate's analytical guys would see a potential problem brewing and ESPN Corporate would go to Bob Arum immediately and say WTF is this, losing 500 subscriptions in one day over crappy fights? Fix this right now, Bob. Same thing would be happening with DAZN and all of a sudden Hearn and Arum would be talking.

                  It's not that 500 people would bankrupt boxing. Of course it wouldn't. But any smart researcher knows that when that type of thing happens you need to nip the problem in the butt before it gains any serious momentum. Maybe it's 500 people now.... but what if it's 2,000 people 3 months later? 10,000 by end of year? And ESPN, CBS (Showtime), etc. have analytics people specifically employed to sniff out these patterns and solve them. Hence why shows get cancelled.

                  People would be amazed how few people are needed to get some results on this matter. It's just a matter some people standing up and putting their foot down. A couple hundred who were down for the cause would be plenty. Red flags would go up all over the place with the networks - and the networks would whip the promoters in line real fast at that point.

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