Comments Thread For: Nacho: Canelo is Not The Best, He's Had Some Scoring Help

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  • Califire209
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    #51
    The OG is just speaking his mind, I don't think he has any hate he just knows greatness when he sees it.

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    • Jab jab boom
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      #52
      Originally posted by icha
      turned people off to canelo ? an entire arena celebrating with him after beating ggg... canelo at this point has more fans than ever, just look at his fight at MSG where was never considered a mexican venue... haters always going to hate and you know it well, but canelo hasnt lost one bit off his fanbase, on the contrary never been more popular...
      now even mexican media that used to give canelo ****t, they all praise him to a very high standard...
      perhaps you should read the back and forth between me and the other poster if you want to insert yourself into the conversation. He was stating reasons why people dislike Canelo which he included reasons such as good looks and money. I was explaining that more fans dislike him for reasons such as favorable treatment /scoring, ped use, and his avoidance of ggg during the period he was fighting khan, Smith and Chavez Jr instead. I didn't question Canelos popularity or the size of his fan base. Of course he has a fan base. How else would anyone explain a garbage fight that everyone should've known would suck such like Canelo VS Chavez Jr generating 1 million buys.

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      • Jab jab boom
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        #53
        Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet
        Chocolatito had ridículous scorecards against:

        Estrada. 118-110

        Cuadras 117-110

        It's always the same sh.it

        Canelo won the fight against Cotto clearly, and against Trout too, with Lara and GGG were much more competitive but no way in hell those fights were robberies
        nobody has had 5 fights with more ridiculous scorecards that what Canelo has had vs trout, mayweather, Lara, Cotto and ggg 1. Bad scorecards happen often in boxing but it hasn't happened for anyone more than it has happened for Canelo. Coincidence?

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          #54
          Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet
          Some losses?

          No, he only deserved the L against Floyd

          Against Lara and GGG I were fair result

          And he definetely beat GGG in the second fight

          And Canelo is a better fighter than all the fighters from U.K in the last two decades
          It's fine to say that Lara and G1 were close. That's true. "fair" is the real question. I don't think Lara was a "fair" result. A draw would have been "fair" there.

          I honestly feel that Lara deserved the win as did G in the first fight.

          To the original point about scoring, look at every fight Canelo's had. There's been at least one completely off scorecard. EVERY time.

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          • TonyGe
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            #55
            Originally posted by Kcvtr81
            Lewis is Canadian
            Yes he is and a damn good fighter for a non hockey player that is..

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            • Oldskoolg
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              #56
              So you Mexican-Americans going to claim that the Mexican beristain is biased against his countryman? Nacho is exactly right.....Trout, Golovkin, Lara....and even one judge had it even with Mayweather. Judges cheat for Canelo, they cheat for the big money making Mexican fighter. That’s never going to change

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              • Thuglife Nelo
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                #57
                Originally posted by Oldskoolg
                So you Mexican-Americans going to claim that the Mexican beristain is biased against his countryman? Nacho is exactly right.....Trout, Golovkin, Lara....and even one judge had it even with Mayweather. Judges cheat for Canelo, they cheat for the big money making Mexican fighter. That’s never going to change
                Those theories don't matter. Go to any boxing gym and ask trainers of Canelo's style and technique. If these theories were true, no ATG, HOFs or guys like Ward would even mention to favor Canelo in fights! You never thought of that right? That's what propaganda does.

                Nacho hating on Canelo is no different than Andre Rozier saying the Charlo's are steroid users. You get it?

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                • mrlopez
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                  #58
                  Best trainer in the history of mexican boxing is speaking the truth.....and these lil kids are still hurt, you'll eventually start hearing them badmouth nacho

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                  • Masterclass775
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                    #59
                    Nacho a f***ng Hater... like most Mexicans (I’m Mexican) they can’t stand when one of their own makes it...

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                    • TonyGe
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by TheCell8
                      Him and Marquez certainly have some animus towards Canelo. I think it boils down to Marquez having to work so hard his whole career and getting overlooked until he finally beat Pacquiao and then got the credit he always deserved. Whereas they probably feel Canelo was given things too early and didn't have to work for them.
                      Marquez fought Pac in Pacquiao's prime. Mosley and Cotto were way past their prime when Canelo got to them. Mayweather was a one sided loss but people praise Canelo's resume. Whether anyone agrees or disagrees with the scoring of the Pac fights they were very competitive . Marquez was never given the credit he deserved.

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