What happen to Fernando Vargas's speed, agility???

[moraleskospacisback]

When u watch him now its horrible to see thinkin back on how much faster and agile he use to be, he use to be a boxer/puncher...In his fight wit trinidad he was fast and quick and thats after bein kd'd twice in the first rd, in the ross thompson fight he was fast, campas, quartey, etc, his speed was never his best option but he was fast and much faster then he is now, now everything is slow and telegrafd, did trinidad take his speed away from that fight, or is it when he got steroided out and hit all them weights for oscar that he lost his speed???

[xcaret]

Steroids ****ed him up badly.

[amagnin]

I think it was when he used steroids and worked out crazy for DLH. I remember hearing Emanual Steward say before the fight that boxers don't come in looking as ripped as Vargas was. Then towards the end of the fight he pointed out that Vargas' arms were so heavy he could hardly keep his hands up. I think that the combination of bulk + the mental toll the DLH and Trinidad losses took on him made him get old fast.

[moraleskospacisback]

i wonder why did he do that??? he didnt believe in himself, he didnt think he could beat oscar??? The Vargas that fought Trinidad would have done so much better against oscar then The steroided muscled out vargas, he should have just stayed that way...

[amagnin]

Hey Xcaret, what is the deal with Bojado anyway? Will he ever make a comeback? I got to say I really thought he had what it took to be a good champion.

[moraleskospacisback]

I think it was when he used steroids and worked out crazy for DLH. I remember hearing Emanual Steward say before the fight that boxers don't come in looking as ripped as Vargas was. Then towards the end of the fight he pointed out that Vargas' arms were so heavy he could hardly keep his hands up. I think that the combination of bulk + the mental toll the DLH and Trinidad losses took on him made him get old fast.

thats some sad ****, cause he use to be nice, and his defense was so underrated at his peak, even in the later rds against tito he was lookin nice in the pocket duckin, dodgin titos punchs, I wonder where he would have been today wit handlers that wouldnt have let him get in the ring wit tito that early in his career...

[Mech.]

Tito happened.

[amagnin]

i wonder why did he do that??? he didnt believe in himself, he didnt think he could beat oscar??? The Vargas that fought Trinidad would have done so much better against oscar then The steroided muscled out vargas, he should have just stayed that way...

I don't think it was fear, but more desperation. He placed so much value on this one fight that losing didn't seem like an option. I imagine he literally would have done anything to win that fight. He felt like he was representing "real latinos" so there was a lot of pressure on him to emerge victorious. It is really sad because I think his career could have been more successful than it was.

[dino]

he probably over did the steriods..thats why his back got messed up

[josenoway]

second that. Vargas was never the same after Tito.

Tito happened.