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  • Granath
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    #61
    I have no idea who Tom Schwarz is but you can gleam some data from his fight reocrd and the little video that's out there.

    First his record is a sham. He's fought exactly 2 boxers who had at least 20 wins and 10 more wins than losses. Neither of those two guys are names. He's only ever fought in Germany which isn't the biggest boxing country out there. Of his last 10 opponents, 9 have 17 or fewer wins. This is the epitome of a record made up of creampuffs. 13 of Wilder's 14 last fights meet the criteria of 20+ wins (and 10 more wins than losses). 14 of Joshua's last 16 opponents meet this criteria. At least they're fighting experienced guys. Schwarz isn't. He's entirely unproven.

    Then let's look at the video. Here's his latest fight.



    Frankly, on the basis of that video Schwartz only belongs near the ring if he bought a ticket. His hands are low, especially his right. His right hook is too wide. He sticks his chin out and up too often. He lumbers on his feet. The cross is telegraphed. It's not pretty.

    For instance, look at this part of the video: https://********/-OLXpe1SXN0?t=170. See those slow pitypat jabs? Any decent boxer - especially one of Fury's size and reach - is just going to send a crashing right over the top and end this in a hurry. You can get away with that crap against small, light punchers. You can't do that against a bigger guy with a long reach or a harder puncher. This is Peter McNeeley-level bad. At least that was Mike Tyson's warmup after not fighting after 4 years. This Tyson is fighting him longer after he started his comeback.

    After watching that video, this fight looks like an absolute joke. Now maybe I'm wrong and maybe he'll KO Fury - but the video doesn't look like it.
    Last edited by Granath; 03-24-2019, 09:43 AM.

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    • PRINCEKOOL
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      #62
      Tom Schwarz, is a good opponent for David Price.

      Point I am trying to make is? Tyson Fury is no longer in a comeback phase. He has had 3 fights now, and even before he fought Deontay Wilder he was training abroad in a great environment 'For 1 whole year'.

      If Tyson Fury is the linear Heavyweight champion, he should really been getting solid opponents that are known in the game. Byrant Jennings, Dillian Whyte etc Whyte has actually been stating that he would fight Tyson Fury even before, Fury had a opponent.

      I would not be surprised with Schwarz if he has semi good durability, to last for 12 rounds. This ESPN deal could potentially back fire on Tyson Fury if he does not put in some good performances. 'Sometimes in boxing it is not just about winning, it is about how you win'.

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      • Yaconcha
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        #63
        Omg, another trump sausage jockey in ***** form.
        For a great big kunt he cant crack an egg let alone a country.
        Try cracking England first diddycoy, you said you don’t need or want the money and you were donating your entire purse from the wilder fight to charity. Did you?
        Lol somehow I don’t think so and this dealhe has....they need to pick his opponents very carefully.
        There’s only so many times a man can get up before a 10 and a half count.

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        • JWHardin
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          #64
          Originally posted by MisanthropicNY
          LOL @ you trying to be inconsistent and still try to make illogical arguments based on your principles for one fighter over another.

          I asked you did Crawford resign with Arum to avoid Spence? No comment, ay?
          No, I don't think Crawford signed with Arum to avoid Spence. I'm sure he took the best offer he had at the time. Boxers like Spence and Crawford aren't afraid. They both know down the line them meeting will be a mega fight.

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          • JWHardin
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            #65
            Originally posted by DaNeutral.
            Im not, im just pointing out the double standards in Wilders extreme slowness in fighting good names compared to everybody else. But i will defend Tyson Fury taking on Tom Schwarz. Fury is not a champion and he can do what he wants. Hes already beaten Klitchko and hes already beaten Wilder. Its not like he has something to prove. What do you care who he fights? Arum seems happy enough with it, So do Warren and Fury himself. Again, what do you care?

            And Schwarz is higher ranked than you claim he is.
            Fine then. I just hope Fury quits lying to the public saying he wants to fight the best to prove he is the best then.

            By the way, he hasn't beaten Wilder.

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            • Noelanthony
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              #66
              Originally posted by Granath
              I have no idea who Tom Schwarz is but you can gleam some data from his fight reocrd and the little video that's out there.

              First his record is a sham. He's fought exactly 2 boxers who had at least 20 wins and 10 more wins than losses. Neither of those two guys are names. He's only ever fought in Germany which isn't the biggest boxing country out there. Of his last 10 opponents, 9 have 17 or fewer wins. This is the epitome of a record made up of creampuffs. 13 of Wilder's 14 last fights meet the criteria of 20+ wins (and 10 more wins than losses). 14 of Joshua's last 16 opponents meet this criteria. At least they're fighting experienced guys. Schwarz isn't. He's entirely unproven.

              Then let's look at the video. Here's his latest fight.



              Frankly, on the basis of that video Schwartz only belongs near the ring if he bought a ticket. His hands are low, especially his right. His right hook is too wide. He sticks his chin out and up too often. He lumbers on his feet. The cross is telegraphed. It's not pretty.

              For instance, look at this part of the video: https://********/-OLXpe1SXN0?t=170. See those slow pitypat jabs? Any decent boxer - especially one of Fury's size and reach - is just going to send a crashing right over the top and end this in a hurry. You can get away with that crap against small, light punchers. You can't do that against a bigger guy with a long reach or a harder puncher. This is Peter McNeeley-level bad. At least that was Mike Tyson's warmup after not fighting after 4 years. This Tyson is fighting him longer after he started his comeback.

              After watching that video, this fight looks like an absolute joke. Now maybe I'm wrong and maybe he'll KO Fury - but the video doesn't look like it.
              Well then Fury wins by Unanimous decision or if Schwarz is better than you think, feint his way to a majority decision.

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              • Noelanthony
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                #67
                Originally posted by JWHardin
                Fine then. I just hope Fury quits lying to the public saying he wants to fight the best to prove he is the best then.

                By the way, he hasn't beaten Wilder.
                Nor has Wilder beat him. There is a heavyweight that has been calling out for Wilder but he has been silent like a pet hamster and you in particular have promoted this cowardice..... “ let’s run it back the world wants to see the rematch”....” we have unfinished business with Fury”. Now it’s “ Brezeale is our mandatory and we will see what’s next”

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                • Granath
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Noelanthony
                  Well then Fury wins by Unanimous decision or if Schwarz is better than you think, feint his way to a majority decision.
                  More likely a KO in 4 then the delusional Fury fans will be touting Schwartz as some sort of major contender and that this is a glorious achievement. In fact, that groundwork is being laid already in this thread and others even though nobody has any ****ing idea who Schwartz is beyond the footage I've posted that makes him look like a donut.

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                  • Noelanthony
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Granath
                    More likely a KO in 4 then the delusional Fury fans will be touting Schwartz as some sort of major contender and that this is a glorious achievement. In fact, that groundwork is being laid already in this thread and others even though nobody has any ****ing idea who Schwartz is beyond the footage I've posted that makes him look like a donut.
                    Lol.. I thought he was originally a footballer that played for Bayern Munich or Borussia Dortmund

                    Dave Caldwell enquired about him as a comeback fight for Derek Chisora so he can’t be any good

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                    • Jkp
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Noelanthony
                      You are right Wilder is fighting his mandatory so it’s ok. Brezeale is undefeated and a major threat. You can’t see AJ ever taking that risk and fighting Brezeale.. smh


                      Edit: Fat baby stop Brezeale. Fat baby will put up more of a test to AJ than Brezeale will to Wilder
                      There both crap opponents. The difference is AJ chose Miller, Wilder was forced to fight Brezeale.
                      Wilder is only fighting him because Fury got scared and bottled the rematch.

                      AJ had his pick of anyone from Ortiz, to Whyte, to Pulev, to David Price.

                      But chose the slowest fattest person he could find.

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