Comments Thread For: Arum: Haymon, Wilder Were Wise To Walk Away From DAZN Deal

[mrjoeblive]

I could care less about Arum. But, ODH and Floyd left because they could actually make more money because they were super stars,not because Arum was ripping them off. Mikey never accused Arum of stealing from him. If so the lawsuits he and Arum had going on such accusations of theft would of been points of contention in the suits, but the lawsuits say nothing of Mikey accusing Arum of stealing from him. You have 0 evidence Arum steals any money. He has never been sued like Don King who actually stole fighters money. Chavez realized how bad King was once he went with Arum and Arum paid him well thus making him realize how much of a thief King was. Again I don't like Arum for many reasons, but stealing fighters money is not one of them.

Pac's financial problems are much more complicated than just saying Arum ripped him off. He spends too much money, he gives away too much money, and he does not pay his taxes.

You complain about in house fights by Arum and I do not like promoters who just do in-house fights, but I do not suffer from promoter favoritism which is a new thing with current boxing fans. If you hate Arum in-house fights then you should hate PBS in-house fights because Haymon does exactly the same thing Top Rank does. If you care about fighters finances then you should be angry with Haymon who makes his fighters turn down huge money offers for his in-house bum of the month fights. You should be angry that Haymon who makes his fighters sign contracts that has Haymon control all their money. They cannot even buy a house without his say so.

FACT Floyd and Oscar left arum because he kept far too much money from their ppvs this has been stated over and over by multiple fighters. Fighters don't leave a promoter that pays them well. Why do you think Floyd calls him Rob arum. If arum were holding 30% of pacs purse like he claimed, pacs tax bills would be next to zero. FACT arum has almost no fighters because he is a horrible promoter. You can think all pbc fighters want to be the next Floyd. What's wrong with that? The man changed the way and any boxers get paid. Plus the majority of boxers want to be the next Floyd not just pbc fighters. You claim to have no promotional bias but sound like you work for arum. The one thing you caint get around is no fighters are leaving pbc in droves like they did arum. The way he screwed pac was far past wrong. Now pac works for Floyd and is getting paid and will have money for retirement. Plus arum has been sued multiple times so I really don't know where you get your info.

[mrjoeblive]

I never said Loma and Bud were Mayweather type stars I said Arum has done a better job promoting his fighters than Haymon has promoted his own fighters. And I do not see Arum, Loma, or Bud having delusional expectations like all of Haymon's stable. All of Haymon's top fighters think they are the next Mayweather as that is the excuse they use when turning down huge money from other promotions.

That should ring some bells in the heads of Haymon fighters when he tells each of them privately, "yeah you are the next Mayweather". Arum's fighters are realistic and Haymon's fighters are delusional. Mikey is a perfect example he had it very good with Arum, making good money being lined up to fight Paq and if he won he would become a star. But that was not good enough he left he is now in bed with Showtime and Haymon to some extent and now look at his career (after that disaster last Saturday).

No delusions huh? So calling a fighter the next Bruce Lee is not deluded? Bruce is far bigger than Floyd no one especially a boxer is going to measure up to Bruce Lee. Arum also has the nagging problem of comparing his fighters to boxing greats like Hagler and Ali that's the pure definition of delusional

[doom_specialist]

No delusions huh? So calling a fighter the next Bruce Lee is not deluded? Bruce is far bigger than Floyd no one especially a boxer is going to measure up to Bruce Lee. Arum also has the nagging problem of comparing his fighters to boxing greats like Hagler and Ali that's the pure definition of delusional

By what metric? Weight/money/fame/skills/etc?

[mrjoeblive]

By what metric? Weight/money/fame/skills/etc?

By fame and skill for sure.