Showtime does not really believe in Wilder

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  • Clubber Pac
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    Showtime does not really believe in Wilder

    Because if they did, they would have offered him a massive contract over a year ago, they would have promised him $20 million a fight, $30 million for unifications, something crazy like that.

    Wilder is by far the biggest asset on Showtimes roster, his capacity to bring in dollars is beyond anyone else, unless Manny fights Floyd, Wilder is the franchise player, because the HW division has awakened, and the biggest money in boxing is in the HW division, when it's right.

    Despite this, Showtime/CBS has not invested in Wilder, even after his fight with Fury did an impressive buy rate relative to general expectations.

    Haymon has convinced Deontay to turn down DAZN because it's in his personal interests to keep Wilder at Showtime, but showtime is not totally sold on Wilder, they actually let him test the market publicly, a committed network locks in the franchise player BEFORE he hits the open market.

    This is something to watch, Wilder declaring "I am a free agent" was a wake up call to the executives at CBS, it was the first time Wilder felt compelled to loudly demand a long term contract, and given the current marketplace, he was well within his rights to do so.

    Wilder agreeing to go back to Showtime only makes sense if he has a long term deal in the works, I posted this in another thread, the ONLY thing that should have prevented the DAZN deal was a bigger contract from Showtime.

    But that didn't happen did it? Wilder has made it clear he will be a free agent after the fight, Showtime let him negotiate with their direct competitors, convinced him to fight on the network with limited financial strings attached, and still has yet to offer him a long term deal as bum a## fighters like Dillian Whyte are getting paid.

    Dollars to Donuts? Showtime does not believe in Wilder enough to mortage the farm, and Haymon is not going escalate his burn rate without Showtimes backing.

    They are literally screwing Wilder over, after he knocks out DB, he needs to go back to DAZN, and negotiate a 2 fight deal for more cash, they will pay it.
  • Curt Henning
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    most idiotic thread ive read in awhile

    the US market dicates wilder isnt worth 20-30 mill a fight...and certainly not last year LOL

    the side that DOESNT believe in their guy is the one who tried to lure the other one...so theyd be risk averted and own 100 percent of the fight

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    • EnglishOxide
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      #3
      Originally posted by Curt Henning
      most idiotic thread ive read in awhile
      Do you not read your own threads?

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      • Clubber Pac
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        #4
        Originally posted by EnglishOxide
        Do you not read your own threads?
        Thank you, I found his response to be super hypocritical.

        I am not saying that I am right, or that he is wrong, but dude be consistent.
        Last edited by Clubber Pac; 03-20-2019, 03:42 PM.

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        • lfc19titles
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          #5
          Originally posted by Curt Henning
          most idiotic thread ive read in awhile

          the US market dicates wilder isnt worth 20-30 mill a fight...and certainly not last year LOL

          the side that DOESNT believe in their guy is the one who tried to lure the other one...so theyd be risk averted and own 100 percent of the fight
          Here we have it folks

          One of the last few **** Riders who keeps up his fake news of wilder wanting the fight and being smart

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          • Curt Henning
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            #6
            Originally posted by EnglishOxide
            Do you not read your own threads?
            oh i read them...its the same 10 twats, all uk fanbois such as yourself, who act like they are dumb

            but my posts are rooted in truth and logic....you simply cant deny them....even in your wildest dreams

            they make you legit upset though....you guys flock to them....quoting them...its like you respond in a matter of seconds all upset

            hearn will never be as big or as smart as espinoza and haymon....never....

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            • Squ□redCircle34
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              #7
              Lol love keep it coming

              Remember you fools said Wilder was an idiot for turning down 12 mill flat fee in the initial negotiations and the 15 mill flat fee and the so called 23 mill flat fee but now he’s commanding more than 100
              Million! Lol

              DAZN messed up by showing their cards, Wilder also leveraged showtime who I’m sure is paying him more than he ever has!

              This is the difference between him and AJ!

              AJ gets offers and Hearns has to make or break them while Wilder gets them thru hisself!

              Wilder also has his own brewing promotional company so he gets paid guaranteed money, gets money from ticket sales and tv revenue and as well from the backend!

              You guys are so emotional like Hearns that it’s laughable!

              Hearns is honestly probably more pissed that Skipper showed his cards and allowed Wilder to see his true market value!

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              • Curt Henning
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                #8
                Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34
                Lol love keep it coming

                Remember you fools said Wilder was an idiot for turning down 12 mill flat fee in the initial negotiations and the 15 mill flat fee and the so called 23 mill flat fee but now he’s commanding more than 100
                Million! Lol

                DAZN messed up by showing their cards, Wilder also leveraged showtime who I’m sure is paying him more than he ever has!

                This is the difference between him and AJ!

                AJ gets offers and Hearns has to make or break them while Wilder gets them thru hisself!

                Wilder also has his own brewing promotional company so he gets paid guaranteed money, gets money from ticket sales and tv revenue and as well from the backend!

                You guys are so emotional like Hearns that it’s laughable!

                Hearns is honestly probably more pissed that Skipper showed his cards and allowed Wilder to see his true market value!
                these guys forget wilder was just "offered" 40 mil a fight with AJ supposedly right? but they were saying he was turning down less than half that just a month ago? lol...how dumb can you be and look

                wilder hasnt turned any AJ fight down yet.....he wasnt fighting him next anyway

                wilder will demand 50 percent when both fights are done this spring/summer...and AJ better come correct.....DAZN isnt getting 100 percent control of this fight and they are gonna have to let wilder and his people get half of it.......thats the situation they put themselves in now by fiddling around and insulting wilder and jerking him and his people around

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                • Lopez_Boxing
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Curt Henning
                  most idiotic thread ive read in awhile

                  the US market dicates wilder isnt worth 20-30 mill a fight...and certainly not last year LOL

                  the side that DOESNT believe in their guy is the one who tried to lure the other one...so theyd be risk averted and own 100 percent of the fight
                  Certainly not the most idiotic thread, theres some dumbass threads, but everything else is pretty spot on

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                  • Clubber Pac
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by lfc19titles
                    Here we have it folks

                    One of the last few **** Riders who keeps up his fake news of wilder wanting the fight and being smart
                    He knows boxing, but continue to argue that Wilder's decisions are the result of supreme business acumen is laughable.

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