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  • Originally posted by Jax teller View Post
    Fury would still be on the path to the back to the top for a pay day and have that motivation. He's much more likely to go off the rails again now.
    Agreed, but Wilder has already gotten the boost he needed from Fury.

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    • Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
      He's talking about fights that are SKY PPV. All Joshua fights are SKY PPV. So DAZN gets them if they match the offer from any other US network. Keep up you ill informed Wilderette.
      Hard to match a percentage for a fight when you a streaming service that doesn’t offer a USA ppv was platform, they going have to throw a insane amount of guarantee out to get fight on dazn.... One of these networks/streaming services need step up and do it so the back and forth can finally be put to rest **** becoming May/pac all over again

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      • Originally posted by lfc19titles View Post
        Shirley is lying and has been exposed as a liar recently

        He is like arum

        As he said a few weeks ago, we won’t let wilder go

        No way is showtime giving him anywhere near what dazn did, wilder made 7m vs fury for heavens sake.

        The bottom part makes no sense, it’s 3 fights wilder is being offered on dazn and two are with Joshua

        How can a fight happen if there is not a network who bids for it, in this case dazn offered the most and wilder ducked Joshua

        He was being offered more for Breazeale as it’s his mando

        Only difference between the showtime deal wilder has is he is being paid less and he gets to avoid Joshua

        Wilder asked at the start he will fight Whyte if joshua is on the contract, that’s a two fight locked on

        This is three with Joshua twice, after the 3 fights wilder is free to go anywhere else, dazn are offering the money so evidently they want it on their platform, they are giving the most money by far

        The world has seen wilder duck Joshua
        So you feel it's ok then if Showtime tells Joshua and Fury to sign with Showtime/PBC if they want to fight Wilder? If you don't, then you're a hypocrite!

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        • Originally posted by john l View Post
          He forgets to mention that AJ is NOT SIGNED to anyone so no stopping him from SHOW/FOX PPV.Also Wilder has not signed a long term deal yet and ANY DEAL would have OUTS says Finkel so who cares where they fight interim fight.And don't change facts that AJ avoided this fight before and Fury CLEARLY ducked rematch that's undisputed he even said so.No fight NEXT he said and MAYBE 2nd of a 5 fight deal they sent to Wilder.Worst case and Wilder seems happy to fight another PBC fighter next AFTER Breazeale then it will just be a case NOW of one being scared and other being glad of it.Only winners the promoters and fanboys of either fighter.The loser's the REAL fans per usual.
          This is what I'm saying. Hearn said AJ is not a dazn guy, so

          A). how could dazn guarantee a fight with AJ if he is not theirs
          B). If Wilder signed AJ could definitely pressure more money out of dazn for Wilder who is stuck at a flat fee
          C)The fight can go to Showtime and both fighters can get a ppv split. Which is what Wilder has been saying he wants.

          It's time for Wilder to start making the offers now though

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          • Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
            Joshua is signed to matchroom, matchroom is signed to DAZN.
            Hearn himself has said that Joshua isn't exclusive to dazn and can fight on Showtime so what are you talking about

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            • Originally posted by Oldskoolg View Post
              And there you have it....after all, this is the network that signed Floyd to a $200m contract for 6 fights and then Floyd ended up making what $700-$800m out of it? And that’s without sponsors and advertisers. No matter what though, it’s odd that the wilder haters constantly talk about money and networks....modern boxing fans are a strange group...so many of them are network/promoter fans these days but then we know that’s all traced back to their ethnic, racial, and nationality bias
              Floyd and Al Haymon took a lot of heat for getting that deal! Deep inside many of the hearts of the haters, they feel like "No Black Man should have all that power!" I know it kills them that Haymon does all this without TV interviews, attending press conferences, attending fight announcements, etc.! They also don't like that he gets many of his fighters to become they're own promoters! "How dare he teach these ni**ers the business side of the game!" I can remember when Haymon brought back the sport to the big networks, and wasn't doing many PPVs, and people were actually mad! "Oh he's overpaying, he's killing the sport!" Now others are overpaying, and not a peep!" It is what it is! I don't want to paint with a broad brush, but if the shoe fits...F**K EM' ALL!

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              • bullshiiit he keeps offering multi fight contracts with dazn in order to get the AJ fight

                hearn

                showtime, fox, pbc and top rank can easily put together a joint ppv for a wilder/fury 2 rematch.....

                can't really say the same for dazn at this moment.

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                • Originally posted by Ake-Dawg View Post
                  No. They can't. That's the whole point. ESPN didn't guarantee Wilder or Joshua to Fury (just told him how much they would pay him if he does).
                  Why can't they? all they got to do is get AJ to confirm it like he did for Klitschko providing he won against Molina. You're creating unnecessary road blocks.

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                  • Originally posted by Redgloveman View Post
                    Wlad was not coming off a 2 year coke binge, a deep suicidal depression and morbid obesity though was he?
                    And Fury wasn't 42, and coming off nearly an 18 month layoff was he? Fury (age 30) weighed 256.5lbs. vs. Wilder! He was 246 vs. Wlad! Not a big difference for a HW! Just be consistent!

                    November 27, 2015:

                    Tyson Fury took one last look into Wladimir Klitschko's eyes before they meet in the ring as they weighed in just a pound apart ahead of Saturday's world heavyweight title showdown.

                    The British challenger came in at 17st 8lbs, his lightest in three years, while WBA, WBO and IBF champion Klitschko was a pound lighter.

                    https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...-a6751676.html

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                    • Originally posted by Redgloveman View Post
                      Even on the eve of the fight the widespread prediction was a Wilder KO win within a few rounds.

                      Props to Fury for making it a contest considering where he was when the fight was signed. But let's not fool ourselves here, Wilder didn't sign to fight a killer.
                      Fury is not, never was, and never will be a killer.

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