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  • HarvardBlue
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    #131
    Originally posted by Boxing1013
    Let me give you a good lesson about life man. This is sincerely meant to try and help you out because you and a lot of others on here seem to struggle with it. Not everything is black and white. You should learn to look at things without bias and objectively and in isolation. No one is out to get you. Everything will be OK if you just work hard and keep your head down. Just because a fighter has a tough fight and takes some licks does not always mean that he will feel that going forward.

    But in some cases that is true. As I said, you seem like the kind of guy who would reverse your position on something depending on if your guy's role in it. And that's a fanboy not a real boxing analyst so your opinion is moot to me.

    Any logical person would say that the most likely scenario is Brook had some lasting damage from the very similar, very close by, issue GGG gave him. People can disagree with that. But to say that assumption is ******, I mean lol. It's the most logical case here. It doesn't diminish Spence as a fighter. He is great. But you have to learn to keep it real man.

    Anyways as I said Spence was winning that fight with Brook the whole way. Obviously there will always be a question of whether Brook was already damaged goods going in to that fight, but we will never know the answer to that. I hope Brook is healthy as he claims and I hope him and Spence mix it up at 154 to see if it is more of a 50/50 type fight rather than 60/40. Brook can't really box like Spence but he may be stronger in some ways and can have an effective gameplan to try and bully him in a way if he can implement it.
    Ok you totally lost me with the bold.

    The problem I have with your assumption is you're trying to draw a logical conclusion to something that makes little sense.

    You're assuming that because Spence broke Brook's left orbital it must've been because Golovkin damaged it in the previous fight. When in fact Golovkin did break the right orbital. Why didn't the doctor not catch that the left was also damaged in the post fight examination? Wouldn't the doctor examine his entire head and face to make sure that's the only damage he suffered?

    I can't believe I even have to explain this. If you're just trolling here you should make it more obvious. Otherwise I'm thinking I'm dealing with a complete idiot. So which one are you?

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    • Boxknowledge75
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      #132
      To me, seeing someone quit is better than seeing someone get ko’d. Love it when I see another man take another man’s heart and soul.

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      • AdonisCreed
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        #133
        Originally posted by Smash
        eye eye captain kell
        HAHA HAHA LOL DUDE!! That was too funny lol

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        • Boxing_1013
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          #134
          Originally posted by HarvardBlue
          Ok you totally lost me with the bold.

          The problem I have with your assumption is you're trying to draw a logical conclusion to something that makes little sense.

          You're assuming that because Spence broke Brook's left orbital it must've been because Golovkin damaged it in the previous fight. When in fact Golovkin did break the right orbital. Why didn't the doctor not catch that the left was also damaged in the post fight examination? Wouldn't the doctor examine his entire head and face to make sure that's the only damage he suffered?

          I can't believe I even have to explain this. If you're just trolling here you should make it more obvious. Otherwise I'm thinking I'm dealing with a complete idiot. So which one are you?
          As someone else in this thread said:

          "Originally Posted by lion33lit View Post
          GGG did some serious damage to the one eye, which most likely weakened the other orbital bone from the bridge of the nose."

          That's how I feel it went, makes the most sense.

          Anyway as I've said multiple times it doesn't really matter. For me Spence was winning anyway so the eye going out didn't cost Brook. I would like to see that fight if Brook is completely healed up and at 154 though. Brook should be a little better there and it may be closer to a 50/50 fight than 60/40 like I had it in fight 1.

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          • AdonisCreed
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            #135
            He shouldn't have fought GGG that fight wasn't worth it. I knew he wasn't going to win that once I saw it was announced.

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            • AdonisCreed
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              #136
              I think kell should stay away from ko artist from this point on.

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              • ArturoBalboa
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                #137
                Originally posted by HarvardBlue
                Ok you totally lost me with the bold.

                The problem I have with your assumption is you're trying to draw a logical conclusion to something that makes little sense.

                You're assuming that because Spence broke Brook's left orbital it must've been because Golovkin damaged it in the previous fight. When in fact Golovkin did break the right orbital. Why didn't the doctor not catch that the left was also damaged in the post fight examination? Wouldn't the doctor examine his entire head and face to make sure that's the only damage he suffered?

                I can't believe I even have to explain this. If you're just trolling here you should make it more obvious. Otherwise I'm thinking I'm dealing with a complete idiot. So which one are you?
                I’m playing devils advocate here because I’m in no way medically qualified to base what I’m saying on more than an assumption.
                But maybe the guy has a point, it’s not like breaking your right arm makes you more prone to having your left arm, that’s ridiculous.
                But your eye sockets are inter connected, the skull is a structure of its parts, maybe breaking one caused reverberations that weakened the other but nothing that would be picked up on x ray. Maybe it just compromised the stability of that structure as a whole.
                I concede the possibility that’s the case just off the laws of probability, how many fighters can you reel off the top of your head suffered a broken orbital bone. What about two in two fights, that’s a massive, massive coincidence surely?

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                • Robbie Barrett
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                  #138
                  Originally posted by 7not8
                  Bro you've got to be high af! I've never seen a poster that was so biased towards his countrymen. We get it man, you back British boxers. That's cool but if you can't see that your video is sped up right before impact then a fast paced sport like boxing probably isn't for you. Smh.
                  I know for a fact it isn't sped up you ******, i made it myself with MakeGIF chrome extension from youtube. You're ****ing delusional bull****ters.

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                  • texasboi15
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                    #139
                    Has Kell Brook himself ever claimed the damage was done in his previous bout against Golovkin?!

                    Has anyone ever heard him use that as an excuse?

                    Because if he hasn't then you motherfckers need to shut the fck up.

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                    • HarvardBlue
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                      #140
                      Originally posted by ArturoBalboa
                      I’m playing devils advocate here because I’m in no way medically qualified to base what I’m saying on more than an assumption.
                      But maybe the guy has a point, it’s not like breaking your right arm makes you more prone to having your left arm, that’s ridiculous.
                      But your eye sockets are inter connected, the skull is a structure of its parts, maybe breaking one caused reverberations that weakened the other but nothing that would be picked up on x ray. Maybe it just compromised the stability of that structure as a whole.
                      I concede the possibility that’s the case just off the laws of probability, how many fighters can you reel off the top of your head suffered a broken orbital bone. What about two in two fights, that’s a massive, massive coincidence surely?
                      Even if this was the case (which sounds highly unlikely), I'm sure it would've came out soon after the second incident that his left eye was compromised by the right being broken.

                      No medical professional, not Brook or his team, no other professional boxer ever made this claim. The only time I've heard this is on this site.

                      I would more likely believe Brook faked a second eye injury because he didn't want to seem like a quitter in back to back fights than I am to believe this claim.

                      I don't believe he faked it btw.

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