Comments Thread For: Errol Spence: If Not Pacquiao, I'll Smoke Shawn Porter, Too

[Ake-Dawg]

An advisor cant blackmail because he has no control over who or when they fight. They can do whatever they want being promotional free agents. See Jacobs leaving Showtime to go back to HBO for the GGG fight, signing a network deal with HBO, and signing with Hearn for examples of this. PBC tries to freeze out Porter he will be fighting Crawford on ESPN paying Haymon his 15% just like Khan did with Canelo.

They are with PBC for a reason. Sure they are welcome to leave. The question is will they make more money than they would fighting Spence.

[Ake-Dawg]

A belt doesn’t make the champion. The champion makes the belt. Porter got beat soundly by Brook, who was beaten soundly by Spence. Porter also lost to Thurman. So what exactly does beating Porter mean for Spence? Not much.

Manny is old. Spence will never get credit for beating Manny. It’s a money grab. I’m not knocking Spence for wanting the payday. I’m just saying it doesn’t interest me. And in terms of his legacy, the fight means pretty much nothing.

Thurman is an example of how irrelevant belts become when the guy holding them doesn’t conduct himself as a champion. Thurman’s act over the last 2+ years have rendered him almost irrelevant. And the little relevance he had left flew out the window in his last performance. A fight with Spence isn’t nearly as meaningful as it would have been a year or two ago. And that’s due to no fault of Errol’s.

The only real meaningful fight at welterweight for Spence is Crawford. And that’s mostly because of how Crawford is viewed P4P moreso than anything Bud has done as a welterweight. And as we know, a Crawford-Spence showdown is gonna be close to impossible to make.

Me wanting to see Spence move up and take on new challenges isn’t a knock on Spence. It’s a compliment. I’m not a big belt guy. But let’s say Spence moved up and took the fights I suggested. If he beat Harrison and then challenged Hurd. Wouldn’t that make that fight a three belt unification? Maybe I missing something. But what’s difference between unifying trinkets at 154, as opposed to 147???

Harrison has a contractual rematch with Charlo so your proposed match up must wait. Secondly you indicate that belts don't matter yet say that a unification between Hurd and Spence is attractive. I'd say a match up between the undisputed king of 147 and the undisputed king of 154 is attractive. To get that we need both to unify and beat their challengers. I understand you wanna see more 50 50 fights, but fights need to have historical meaning as well as competitive attraction.

[Mister Wolf]

They are with PBC for a reason. Sure they are welcome to leave. The question is will they make more money than they would fighting Spence.

"If you aren't talking PPV money don't even call" - Kenny Porter. They want to be paid what the non effort Garcia got paid.

[Ake-Dawg]

"If you aren't talking PPV money don't even call" - Kenny Porter. They want to be paid what the non effort Garcia got paid.

I hadn't heard that. What interview is that from?

[factsarenice]

As long as Spence keeps avoiding Crawford he'll be fine

[hitking]

Harrison has a contractual rematch with Charlo so your proposed match up must wait. Secondly you indicate that belts don't matter yet say that a unification between Hurd and Spence is attractive. I'd say a match up between the undisputed king of 147 and the undisputed king of 154 is attractive. To get that we need both to unify and beat their challengers. I understand you wanna see more 50 50 fights, but fights need to have historical meaning as well as competitive attraction.

I don’t care about belts. I was basically asking what’s the difference between “unifying” belts at 147 or 154. I personally would rather Spence went straight to Hurd. Because Harrison is a bum. I mentioned Harrison as a potential opponent if Spence wanted a tuneup at the new weight before fighting Hurd. I also wasn’t aware that there’s a rule stating he couldn’t come back down to 147 and belt grab after moving up to 154 for bigger fights, while waiting on guys to wanna fight him. The reality is, Crawford is holding one of the major belts at welterweight. And as long as Spence is with Haymon, and Crawford is with Arum, that fight ain’t happening. So hanging around at welterweight to try and become “undisputed” is pretty much moot anyway.

[Mister Wolf]

I hadn't heard that. What interview is that from?

They paid Garcia 8-9 million to show up and not do ****. Best believe Porter want the same.

[Ake-Dawg]

They paid Garcia 8-9 million to show up and not do ****. Best believe Porter want the same.

Interesting statement from Kenny. I guess we will see what happens next. I feel he will be out in the cold because Manny would fight Spence if Porter prices himself out. Thanks for that.

[ShoulderRoll]

Porter can't draw flies to shit and should have lost his last fight.

He's not getting paid like Mikey Garcia.

[Manic Shot]

Manny will fcuk up Spence just like any taller fighters he beat.
Spence 'Error' vs Manny.