If brook is considered such an average/overrated fighter...

[Redd Foxx]

Brook lost twice, and got really hurt in both. Spence has never lost and has beat up everyone pretty badly.
Still struggling to wrap your head around this???

I do think Spence is a little overrated but he's definitely a level above Brook, and he literally proved that.

[BLASTER1]

All Madison threads are having a whinge.
Must be a pommy.
Stop being such a sook.

[Curtis Harper]

Spence is waiting for the competition level to catch up to him. Same with Bud. They are not ducking guys, if that's what is being insinuated.

[MastaBlasta]

No all im reading is that mikey/spence is better than ggg/brook because brook wasnt proven and was overrated. Yet these same clowns forget thats the best name on spences resume, and he got him on the back of a brutal loss.

You're attacking Spence but those are Mikey fans clowning Brook. Personally I had Brook as the top Welter until the Spence fight (I still think he beats Thurman). Not sure what the GGG loss took out of him beyond the obvious eye damage. More questions now after the Spence loss.

[MastaBlasta]

I never once heard that Spence was ever a pound for pound fighter before. For one, he doesn't have many notable names on his resume

In addition, he is yet still green, underdeveloped and lacks both the seasoning and the experience of a Mikey Garcia; Which is why Mikey is challenging him in the first place

This is perhaps the most asinine thing I've ever heard in boxing in my life. When people speak of Errol Spence, Jr they are largely referring to his potential because he is mostly avoided by most welters his size..

Spence made P4P BECAUSE all the top Welters KNOW, and thus avoided him. Fans, writers, etc. picked up on it too, after watching him dismantle THE FEW who would fight hiim. Green, unseasoned or not, he belongs. Other Welters aren't complaining. And Mikey's time for words is up.

[Jubei]

Some facts

- Brook was in his absolute prime vs GGG

- Brook was ranked inside the top 10 P4P when he stepped into the ring with GGG (#9)
- He is the only guy to clearly beat Porter in Porters backyard
- He was bigger or lets say at least as big as GGG.
- After GGG demolished Brook and broke his face, Brook wasnt ranked anymore
- Brook was done at the top level, never the same, had to lose all that musle mass to get down to 147
- Brook didnt even have a tuneup and still took the Spence fight.









Thats what a mismatch looks like:

Spence is a weightbully being able to drain himself to 147 for a short amount, Spence prefers to fight lightweights and past prime fighters instead of the top fighter - Crawford - in his own division.

GGG on the other hand is a respected elite fighter who is fighting bigger man almost all of his career.

[j0zef]

Brook screwed up his own career. Even Hearn begged with him not to try to make 147 anymore. That was a horrible mistake, he wasn't the same fighter during that fight and hasn't been since then.
Spence's P4P ranking is due to the eye test. He's good, really good. Opposition hasn't been the best so far.

When Spence beats Mikey, it doesn't do anything to his P4P ranking. Just like Golovkin didn't move up after Brook, neither will Spence after Mikey.

[Phenom]

Some facts

- Brook was in his absolute prime vs GGG

- Brook was ranked inside the top 10 P4P when he stepped into the ring with GGG (#9)
- He is the only guy to clearly beat Porter in Porters backyard
- He was bigger or lets say at least as big as GGG.
- After GGG demolished Brook and broke his face, Brook wasnt ranked anymore
- Brook was done at the top level, never the same, had to lose all that musle mass to get down to 147
- Brook didnt even have a tuneup and still took the Spence fight.









Thats what a mismatch looks like:

Spence is a weightbully being able to drain himself to 147 for a short amount, Spence prefers to fight lightweights and past prime fighters instead of the top fighter - Crawford - in his own division.

GGG on the other hand is a respected elite fighter who is fighting bigger man almost all of his career.

You think Golovkin would fight another 154 guy at 160 for his DAZN debut?

Vanes rematch maybe

[Fists_of_Fury]

Then why is spence considered a p4p level fighter and the face of american boxing with that as his best win after brook had been kod in 5 and drained himself to make 147? Or is it due to his wins against amazing opposition like algieri and peterson that hes rated so highly? **** me the standards for being p4p/elite level are low these days

That Brook win is better than p4p#1 bum hunter Crawford's best win at welterweight and arguably any weight he was in. Loma lost to ****ing Salido loooool, dropped by Linares loooool, marked up by Marriaga loooool, and had a hard time with Tank's leftover Pedraza loooool. All the p4p guys have **** resumes compared to generations before. GGG the most overrated bum hunter in history was p4p ffs.

[Jubei]

You think Golovkin would fight another 154 guy at 160 for his DAZN debut?

Vanes rematch maybe

Why? You think Canelo will be busted for PEDs again and be banned for another year like last May when GGG was about to face Canelo on cinco de majo?