Rewatched Mikey vs Lipinets and scored it a Draw + Spence vs Mikey Breakdown

[boliodogs]

In my opinion Mikey has never lost a fight and has earned a spot near the bottom of the 10 best pfp boxers in the world. Maybe number 7 or 8. I agree Spence is great and near the top of my top 10 pfp best list. I think he is better than Mikey in every way with a huge advantage in power and punch resistance. Spence will only outweigh Mikey by a pound or two in the ring. Spence will slaughter him just because he is so much better. I think Spence will win by KO in the first round but Mikey might last 3 rounds if Spence takes his time. Spence by KO in 4 rounds or less. Just my opinion.

[pillowfists98]

I had it 8-4. Garcia didn't look very impressive in that fight. He got hit a lot.

[STREET CLEANER]

I like Lipinets a lot and thought that he might pull an upset but no way that fight was a draw. He lost and Mikey showed that he was a level above

[BM dnobagaV]

Mikey should definitely do the SRL tactic of stealing rounds in the closing minute.

[bluemax]

Huh?

If you SAW a draw I suggest you need an eye exam right away!!!

[JWHardin]

Scoring system:

- the + numbers is my system where i give each punch a diff amount of points
- e.g. jab =1, power shot =2, hard power shot=3, very hard power shot =4, haymaker 5+ depending on its effect
- Most power punches i give 2 points. I gave mikey more 3 pointers than i did for lipinets because they were counters whereas lipinets' was a lot of leads to the body


Mikey vs Lipinets RBR scoring


R1: draw
R2: draw
R3: mikey +2. Mikey finished stronger
R4: lipinets +5 . mikey finished stronger
R5: lipinets +3, mikey lands big shots at very end again
R6: lipinets +20
R7: mikey knockdown. Mikey +5 outside knockdown
R8: draw , mikey tries to step it up last 30 seconds again
R9: mikey +2 from final 10 secs countering and some leading
R10: mikey +11. Much more active from start
R11: lipinets +12.
R12: lipinets +4

5-4-3 lipinets with 1 mikey knockdown

Draw

- Mikey fires back when gets hit but feels the shots
- Not great stamina
- Generally speaking, fighters try to steal rounds when they are worried about opponents power or worried about their own stamina, and feel skill difference is small


R6 review:


- There too long for counter
- Not agile enough
- Too defensive when lipinets throws
- Loads up to get power from ground too much, elite opponent would be able to anticipate shot coming

Spence vs peterson

- Very good power, defense, chin, punch variety, output, accuracy, awareness, athleticism elite
- R7: peterson upperbody and head movement preventing getting hit. Mikey does not have this.
- Peterson quit because of the beating

Mikey garcia vs robert easter

- Mikey not agile enough
- will punch at your guard, your arms
- Much higher output than in lipinets fight - probably because was dictacting pace which is less tiring, able to fight in own rhythm , less worried about easter's power and skill, at lighter weight
- Powerful
- Good technique, uses ground to generate power
- Very relaxed
- great punch variety
- fast
- Very aware
- very mentally switched on , good combinations and feints when able to dictate
- can throw quick right hands where he does not load up

Spence vs brook

Spence extremely determined and aggressive
Brook punches very hard to read
Spence stamina unreal
Punches in combination
Accurate
Good at prevent holding on inside
Brook extremely durable
Can be hit with body shots if you punch in combination to head and finish to body because of his high guard
Tap jab designed to stop opponent moving when opponent touches ropes

Mikey vs salido

Beat salido up but salido just clinched on inside

Mikey strategy

- Judging by interviews, is going to try and push spence back and throw body shots at times. And other times going to try to move and time spence with counters


Final thoughts

- Mikey inside game non-existent. Spence inside game best in the game
- Mikey delusional
- Brother and father have to seem confident now the fight got made in order to support Mikey
- Mikey showed he was affected by body shots from Lipinets. Very subtle but i could notice it
- If mikey can be agile like he was at lower weights he can prolong the fight but spence stamina advantage will tell and stop him eventually
- But i see Spence getting to Mikey early and Mikey trying to fight back and getting caught and getting Ko'ed within 6 rounds.
- Added weight will hurt Mikey agility and stamina wise.
- Mikey has small lapses , which a relentless fighter like Spence can take advantage of. Mikey is a better fighter when he can fight at his rhythm, I see signs of aging and view him as a declining fighter.
- Spence extremely impressive. Watching him back has made me put him extremely high in my p4p list in which main criteria being how unbeatable i think the fighter is:

1. Inoue
2. Spence
3. Crawford
4. Lomachenko
5. Canelo
6. GGG
7. Usyk
8. Jacobs
9. Gervonta
10. Estrada

Final prediction: Spence KO r4. not a hard prediction, everyone on nsb is picking the same but since i researched because I am betting on the fight I thought I would post my breakdown.

Very Impressed, well done. You obviously know boxing well. I think the fight will last longer than 4 rounds due to Mikey's skill. I think it will go into rounds 8 or 9. In order to do that though, Mikey will have to hit Spence with a few big shots to slow him down. I can't wait for this fight!

As far as the Lipinets fight, I thought Mikey won no question, but not a landslide. I would have gave it to him by 2 or 3 rounds, maybe 4.

[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

ummm.......... thats not how you score a fight lmfao

[Citizen Koba]

ummm.......... thats not how you score a fight lmfao

No, man, you're wrong. It is how he scores a fight.... it's just not how everyone else scores a fight.

Still... dare to be different I say. I could see it catching on. It's not like the present scoring system is really that brilliant anyways.

[Barristan]

Scoring system:

- the + numbers is my system where i give each punch a diff amount of points
- e.g. jab =1, power shot =2, hard power shot=3, very hard power shot =4, haymaker 5+ depending on its effect
- Most power punches i give 2 points. I gave mikey more 3 pointers than i did for lipinets because they were counters whereas lipinets' was a lot of leads to the body


Mikey vs Lipinets RBR scoring


R1: draw
R2: draw
R3: mikey +2. Mikey finished stronger
R4: lipinets +5 . mikey finished stronger
R5: lipinets +3, mikey lands big shots at very end again
R6: lipinets +20
R7: mikey knockdown. Mikey +5 outside knockdown
R8: draw , mikey tries to step it up last 30 seconds again
R9: mikey +2 from final 10 secs countering and some leading
R10: mikey +11. Much more active from start
R11: lipinets +12.
R12: lipinets +4

5-4-3 lipinets with 1 mikey knockdown

Draw

- Mikey fires back when gets hit but feels the shots
- Not great stamina
- Generally speaking, fighters try to steal rounds when they are worried about opponents power or worried about their own stamina, and feel skill difference is small


R6 review:


- There too long for counter
- Not agile enough
- Too defensive when lipinets throws
- Loads up to get power from ground too much, elite opponent would be able to anticipate shot coming

Spence vs peterson

- Very good power, defense, chin, punch variety, output, accuracy, awareness, athleticism elite
- R7: peterson upperbody and head movement preventing getting hit. Mikey does not have this.
- Peterson quit because of the beating

Mikey garcia vs robert easter

- Mikey not agile enough
- will punch at your guard, your arms
- Much higher output than in lipinets fight - probably because was dictacting pace which is less tiring, able to fight in own rhythm , less worried about easter's power and skill, at lighter weight
- Powerful
- Good technique, uses ground to generate power
- Very relaxed
- great punch variety
- fast
- Very aware
- very mentally switched on , good combinations and feints when able to dictate
- can throw quick right hands where he does not load up

Spence vs brook

Spence extremely determined and aggressive
Brook punches very hard to read
Spence stamina unreal
Punches in combination
Accurate
Good at prevent holding on inside
Brook extremely durable
Can be hit with body shots if you punch in combination to head and finish to body because of his high guard
Tap jab designed to stop opponent moving when opponent touches ropes

Mikey vs salido

Beat salido up but salido just clinched on inside

Mikey strategy

- Judging by interviews, is going to try and push spence back and throw body shots at times. And other times going to try to move and time spence with counters


Final thoughts

- Mikey inside game non-existent. Spence inside game best in the game
- Mikey delusional
- Brother and father have to seem confident now the fight got made in order to support Mikey
- Mikey showed he was affected by body shots from Lipinets. Very subtle but i could notice it
- If mikey can be agile like he was at lower weights he can prolong the fight but spence stamina advantage will tell and stop him eventually
- But i see Spence getting to Mikey early and Mikey trying to fight back and getting caught and getting Ko'ed within 6 rounds.
- Added weight will hurt Mikey agility and stamina wise.
- Mikey has small lapses , which a relentless fighter like Spence can take advantage of. Mikey is a better fighter when he can fight at his rhythm, I see signs of aging and view him as a declining fighter.
- Spence extremely impressive. Watching him back has made me put him extremely high in my p4p list in which main criteria being how unbeatable i think the fighter is:

1. Inoue
2. Spence
3. Crawford
4. Lomachenko
5. Canelo
6. GGG
7. Usyk
8. Jacobs
9. Gervonta
10. Estrada

Final prediction: Spence KO r4. not a hard prediction, everyone on nsb is picking the same but since i researched because I am betting on the fight I thought I would post my breakdown.

Very entertaining post thanks for that bro...I was shocked how many big shots Mikey took in the Lipnets fight. No way he survives 12 in the with Spence who is on my P4P list. Spence knows how to smother your offense while landing accurately to your head/body. Mikey’s in trouble.

[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

No, man, you're wrong. It is how he scores a fight.... it's just not how everyone else scores a fight.

Still... dare to be different I say. I could see it catching on. It's not like the present scoring system is really that brilliant anyways.

Only one person I seen ever come up with an alternative that was legit, he name was ***** he was a admin on Sweetboxing.com I dont remember it anymore but I remember thinking that it was legit and I would support it, it wasnt a 10 point must system anymore but it was pased of 10 points being the max.

Im not knocking OP but its not really a great way to score fights. Also his motives can be suspect (not saying they are) but can be, he did not take into account, ring generalship, effective aggressive etc, he basically said who compubox said threw the most power punches won, just did it in a long thought out fancy way.