DAZN should stay away from Haymon

[chrisJS]

If he can offer his fighters and the talent isn't monopolized and/or it gets rid of the different divisions in boxing they should work with him. The more under one umbrella the better IMO. I never liked the UFC's model of one organization ruling all but seeing how complex it is having too many well funded platforms in boxing is even worse.

What I will say is that the last 7-8 years and probably the next couple have probably been the weakest in terms of talent and caliber of matches in the history of the gloved era of the sport and he's been a big player. If he's as big as his fanatics point out then he's probably the main reason. If you disagree, ask yourself "Is Boxing better today in terms of the quality of matches than it's ever been in your life?" and if you've been watching for more than 10 years your answer is obviously no. Hearn is "just a U.K promoter" so whilst he's maybe not great for that scene he's not a huge player here yet. Maybe he'll be bad too?

He's excellent for his clients and clearly good at business but he's not very good for the sport or the fans IMO. There are promoter fanboys though that love him and think he invented the sport but IMO that's going too far. I pay money to watch boxing and I don't get a % of the fighters' purses so I'm more interested as a fan than the business done for an individual fighter. I think most fans think this way.

[Robbie Barrett]

If he can offer his fighters and the talent isn't monopolized and/or it gets rid of the different divisions in boxing they should work with him. The more under one umbrella the better IMO. I never liked the UFC's model of one organization ruling all but seeing how complex it is having too many well funded platforms in boxing is even worse.

What I will say is that the last 7-8 years and probably the next couple have probably been the weakest in terms of talent and caliber of matches in the history of the gloved era of the sport and he's been a big player. If he's as big as his fanatics point out then he's probably the main reason. If you disagree, ask yourself "Is Boxing better today in terms of the quality of matches than it's ever been in your life?" and if you've been watching for more than 10 years your answer is obviously no. Hearn is "just a U.K promoter" so whilst he's maybe not great for that scene he's not a huge player here yet. Maybe he'll be bad too?

He's excellent for his clients and clearly good at business but he's not very good for the sport or the fans IMO. There are promoter fanboys though that love him and think he invented the sport but IMO that's going too far. I pay money to watch boxing and I don't get a % of the fighters' purses so I'm more interested as a fan than the business done for an individual fighter. I think most fans think this way.

When GBP was big we had it great, they were constantly putting on good fights. Haymon ruined that.

[kidbazooka]

Yes Haymon ruined HBO by them being petty and not doing business with him instead after decades of being the top dog in a matter of years running their company out of the sport

he almost ruined GB by offering Oscar 100m for the company he was just a figure head at and didnt even know what was going on ( 100 m so hard done by ) , having his stable not sign long term deals and paying GB for the rest , looking out for his fighters best interest instead of the promoters. Doesn’t matter GBs toast once Canelo retires

And he definitely f.ucked up Showtime by having them become the #1 boxing platform after decades of playing second fiddle to HBO giving them access to the best stable of fighters

Dazn should stay away from one of the most powerful men in the sport a guy with the deepest roster instead just have Hearn run the show who couldn’t sign any American fighters with any fans , a guy who seems most don’t want to business with and would rather go directly to Skipper and Oscar who is only relevant because of 1 fighter , That’s a much better strategy for success

Keep hating on GBp it must kill you that they just signed the biggest boxing contract in history and have the cash cow of the sport and will continue to for years to come.

Haymon pbc in the other hand is what’s wrong with boxing guys fighting c level comp their entire careers and wasting always their primes that guy is a disease to the sport

[R_Walken]

End the thread. Hearn is what caused HBO to lose money with his garbage fights like Jacobs Sulecki which had only 4000 people in attendance

HBOs problem wasn’t Hearn , he is part of the reason that in a matter of years HBO went from being the gold standard in the sport for decades to literally nose diving into mediocrity at a record pace and out of business in a matter years . By boycotting Haymon And with Top Rank seeing what was happening and jumping to Espn. HBO was forced and had no other option but to allow Main Events have Kovalev fight fight unknowns after losing to Ward , Golden Boy have their sh.it stable consistently take up valuable dates fighting in mostly sh.it fights ,let Hearn waive AJ potentially going there so he could get in and put on his sh.it fights or have Loeffler using HBO $ to show women’s fights .

HBO went from decades as the premier boxing network to being dead last having been leapfrogged by PBC & Espn taking taking both less then a year to surpass them , HBO had no other option but show a steady stream trash fights to out of the sport , All in a span of less then 5 years . It’s f.ucking amazing actually how fast they went from first to worst.

Everything he touches turns to shit. FACTS boys.

Like what Robbie, What are all these examples of turning everything he touches into sh.it



Because I’m pretty sure he was the driving force in Mayweathers career , Floyd seemed to do alright financially

as soon as he started working exclusively with Showtime they took over HBO as the premier boxing platform.

Started the PBC got a network deal out of it

If Dazn had hired Someone who worked with Haymon and had the ability to bring over his stable into Dazn , instead of hiring Hearn as the man . Dazn would doing much better now and off to a much better start

Hearn thought because he had a deep cheque book he could buy himself into prominence and have the pick of the litter and all the American fighters would come running towards him , All Hearn did was spin his wheels for months and the end result was only fighters he signed none had any fans , Even Haymon threw some of his fighters his way so they could get paid and not take up his dates with fighters that attract viewers ,Hearn has put them in nothing but sh.it fights that no one really cares about. Not the best way to get the public wanting to purchase A new platform .

Golden Boy / Golovkin and Wikder all chose to negotiate with skipper directly instead of Hearn so he isn’t the reason for any of those signings ( if Wikder signs ) . It seems to me that Dazn realizes Hearn was a mistake and a bad move making him the boss like he was made out to be at the beginning. have pushed him to the background with Skipper taking the reigns as the man you want to deal with . And Matchroom can’t bring them any success and is just another GB for Dazn( except Canelos a way more of a known commodity and has the ability to get subscribers in the States then AJ is ) ThEir just A promoter that puts on fights , so far mostly bad ones

Your Facts like always are sh.it and just the opinion of a lame

[Larry the boss]

Posters actually are now hating on promoters, managers and advisers...

[Fabes88]

Sky should have stayed away from Eddie Hearns do you remember Audley Harrison vs David Haye. who was Audley Harrison manager at the time Eddie Hearns

Yeah because things haven’t improved since..

[Robbie Barrett]

Posters actually are now hating on promoters, managers and advisers...

They are the ones that ruin the sport. We had it great with GBP until Haymon took all the fighters and gave us shit shows.

[DuckAdonis]

Thank you Al Haymon!

[R_Walken]

Keep hating on GBp it must kill you that they just signed the biggest boxing contract in history and have the cash cow of the sport and will continue to for years to come.

Haymon pbc in the other hand is what’s wrong with boxing guys fighting c level comp their entire careers and wasting always their primes that guy is a disease to the sport

I’m not going to lie

I underestimated how much GB could leverage Canelo into still staying somewhat relevant . They’ve done a great job as far as that .

Not a Canelo fan but respect his warrior mentality and props to him for getting paid , I’m not mad at that. Get paid Youngblood get paid

But that’s all they have and once Canelo leaves the sport GB will almost certainly be gone a short time after that or just be a 3rd rate Promotional co. Canelo is all they got , everyone else loses money

Yeah it’s only a Haymon thing that has fighters fighting no hopers , Look at the level of fighters Mungia has fought since getting his strap , Sh.it makes Haymon look like he puts his fighters through the gauntlet it’s been nothing but D class after D class nobody’s .

What about Zurdo championship reign , That sh.it is beyond a joke a 3 year run of certified dog sh.it . Valdez’s reign hasn’t been much better and Ramirez looks like he’s on that no hoper diet as well.

Hearn has had Brook /Khan fight the last year just a steady stream of no name no hope scrubs. Brook just fought a guy that Quillen was laughed at for fighting , but I didn’t see a 1/10th of the fake outrage when Kell fought him . What about Andrade championship run so far not really the thing of legends

Everyone in the sport does it, in most cases it’s worse then who Haymon has his fighters fight.
But let me guess we’re still going to go off Garcia / Salka as proof that Haymons a disease to the sport

[bballchump11]

Haymon has done Showtime dirty. He took most of his biggest draws over to Fox.

I would be interested to see what Haymon's PBC contract with Showtime looks like.

I don't agree. When the PBC initially went on FOX, NBC and CBS, Showtime didn't get many dates originally. Then after a year, he started to bring them back.

Stephen Espinoza said that Showtime would benefit from having its fighters fight on a bigger platform receiving exposure then coming back. I think that's the same thing here. FOX has 10 dates and is filling them up the in the beginning of the year. I think Showtime will start to fill their 12 dates more toward the end of the year.

FOX won't want to compete with college football when it starts again in the Fall.