Comments Thread For: Lomachenko: My Goal is To Unify at 135, Maybe Return To 130

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  • BoxingIsGreat
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    #21
    Originally posted by BillyBoxing
    What is your top 5? I'm really curious.

    I think P4P list are shhttt but Loma is in the top 5 of most accomplished boxers in boxing for sure.

    To me ATM, only 4 atg level fighters are operating in boxing right now.

    In the way that they can beat top comp in many divisions and did.

    Canelo, Loma, Mikey, bud.

    The rest are paper champs.

    Honorable mention to Usyk.

    Loma accomplishments in boxing are unique and top notch, starting with his 2 Olympic medals in 2 different weight classes, + his pro record is top notch too, kinda like 9 world champ in 13 fights, ridiculous...
    The boxers I think will beat him or are better are:

    Davis
    Mikey
    Usyk
    Canelo
    Spence
    Crawford

    I don't agree any current boxer is ATG. Some have a potential.

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      #22
      Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
      Loma belongs in the top 10 best fighters in the world. Not on my top 5 best fighters. P4P is BS.
      Who is your top ten?

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        #23
        Originally posted by .WesternChamp.
        loma dont want no smoke... cant believe this guy is actually seen as the p4p #1 by some of yall...
        I can't see 12-1 in the hall of fame. Loma is good, but the greats fight wars, some through generations. Some beat the father and visit the son. Archie Moore KOd 130 men, Sugar Ray is still an example of all things sweet, Ceasar Chavez was 80-0. These men didn't settle for the low hanging fruit or a flash in the pan. Let Loma go back to 130, he might get to 15-0, but his achievement dwindle considering the lack of titles then and the blood and pain still vs his lack of the same. When you talk HOF, there is no "he made it look easy" catagory.

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        • BoxingIsGreat
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          #24
          Check above.

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            #25
            Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
            Check above.
            Got ya. Yeah I actually really like Davis too and would have him close to my top 10 pfp. I don't rate Mikey at all but those other guys plus GGG and Loma are the clear cream of the crop right now

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            • BillyBoxing
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              #26
              Originally posted by vitali1999
              Smart boy. Better to move down than ☝ Garcia dummy boy and your fans.
              Moving down usually can turn bad for fighters

              It is just that Loma isn't growing into 135.

              Loma didn't started pro boxing at 20 years old, dudes like Oscar, Floyd did and grew into different weight classes.

              Loma woulda probably been a 122 pro fighter in his early 20s, with no same day weigh in..

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                #27
                Originally posted by Boxing1013
                Got ya. Yeah I actually really like Davis too and would have him close to my top 10 pfp. I don't rate Mikey at all but those other guys plus GGG and Loma are the clear cream of the crop right now
                I like Loma a lot. I was kinda disappointed in the Linares and Pedraza fights. I made a lot of arguments for him that it was the weight and I still believe that.

                I wish he could go back and settle at 130 but, again, I don't like that because Davis will be at 135 soon. That's one fight I wish for the most in all boxing, as well as Spence-Crawford.

                Loma is more skilled than Mikey. The weight (135 or 140) will be a big issue for him if they fought.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by BillyBoxing
                  Moving down usually can turn bad for fighters

                  It is just that Loma isn't growing into 135.

                  Loma didn't started pro boxing at 20 years old, dudes like Oscar, Floyd did and grew into different weight classes.

                  Loma woulda probably been a 122 pro fighter in his early 20s, with no same day weigh in..
                  Good point. Kind of puts it into perspective why Floyd and Pac could rise up like that but Loma is struggling. I think moving up is easier because if you get beat you can still save face. But will be interesting to see what happens with Loma in the next 5 years

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                  • BillyBoxing
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
                    The boxers I think will beat him or are better are:

                    Davis
                    Mikey
                    Usyk
                    Canelo
                    Spence
                    Crawford

                    I don't agree any current boxer is ATG. Some have a potential.
                    I'm sorry but I strongly disagree, your picking only bigger guys to beat him, except Davis...which team doesn't want that smoke.

                    Just like people did with Floyd, ho winky beats him doe.

                    And as far as P4P level, even Usyk himself would tell you Loma is better.

                    Spence is a world champ in one division. So Loma looked "so so" at 135, how would Spence look at 160?

                    Spence should not even come in the same sentence, he just beat a coming off a loss brook and struggled in the process...we don't even know if his style can do well at 154...

                    Canelo went 12 Vs 12 in 24 rounds Vs GGG.
                    Loma is on another level, fighting top guys at 135 and style dominating.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by el***
                      weird. He didnt talk about getting Mikey Garcia's belt 6 months ago when Garcia was around. Now that hes up at 147 its safe to talk about unifying at 135.
                      Yes he did mr f@ggot, Loma been taking about fighting Mikey for 2 years

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