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  • lolpz
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    #101
    Originally posted by JonDelPrado
    It’s not quite as simple as that. Name oponents on the decline. Back to back loses for Algieri, Brook right out of the surgical table and weight drained, long faded Peterson. It’s great match-making for sure. I’m with the people that think Spence hasn’t really proven he’s the best. Sure, he has a lot of power but he landed it easily on faded opponents.
    Great matchmaking? You mean the only fighters willing to step uo and fight him?

    He tried to get all the big names before the title fight, no one wanted it. He got the title, no one except Peterson wanted it.

    These are facts. Get your facts straight. There is a reason they all turned him down before AND after he won the title. Calling Peterson "faded" just because he was the only one willing to step up so he ended up paying the price... ridiculous. Let's see anyone of these other guys stop this even more "faded" Peterson now.
    Last edited by lolpz; 03-12-2019, 06:54 PM.

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    • wileyhemi
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      #102
      Blah blah...no chance

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      • JonDP
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        #103
        Originally posted by lolpz
        Great matchmaking? You mean the only fighters willing to step uo and fight him?

        He tried to get all the big names before the title fight, no one wanted it. He got the title, no one except Peterson wanted it.

        These are facts. Get your facts straight. There is a reason they all turned him down before AND after he won the title. Calling Peterson "faded" just because he was the only one willing to step up so he ended up paying the price... ridiculous. Let's see anyone of these other guys stop this even more "faded" Peterson now.
        Even if those where the only opponents available the fact also still remains he hasn’t really been tested. Of course he’s dangerous and if the reward wasn’t there no one would take it. Risk vs reward, stop making it sound like everybody was running scared. Peterson has had years of uneven performances and fighting once a year, not the elite fighter you make him out to be.

        Brook was a real test but the question still remains wether or not GGG had done him in. Brook was actually doing very well in the fight until the injury. If that was all Spence then why isn’t he breaking everybody’s faces?
        Last edited by JonDP; 03-12-2019, 08:50 PM.

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        • lolpz
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          #104
          Originally posted by JonDelPrado
          Even if those where the only opponents available the fact also still remains he hasn’t really been tested. Of course he’s dangerous and if the reward wasn’t there no one would take it. Risk vs reward, stop making it sound like everybody was running scared. Peterson has had years of uneven performances and fighting once a year, not the elite fighter you make him out to be.
          How can someone be tested when they've held a belt in the red hot welterweight division for TWO years now and NONE of the top guys have wanted to fight him?

          You make it seem as if he's some prospect... That was in 2016. He's now a TOP NAME in the entire sport. Please get your facts straight before responding to me please, I'm not here to teach basic boxing knowledge. Do your research before talking.

          What is your definition of "test" anyways? He's a champion. He won his belt by traveling overseas and stopping the #2 welterweight in the world in his own backyard after a near year lay off. What the ***** are you even saying? He's been tested plenty. It's time for the top names to step up and fight him. None of that "low risk" nonsense please.

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          • JWHardin
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            #105
            Originally posted by sterilizer
            That's ridiculous. Quitting means losing the fight. He didn't quit, he was getting head butt after head butt from that dirty guy Salido until he cut him real bad, so the doctor asked the corner if they wanted to keep risking their fighter to get more head butts or they wanted to stop the fight on the grounds of a big cut by excessive head butts, and of course they were not ******, they chose to stop it. Salido was knocked down already like three times and he was getting a huge beat up throughout the whole fight, so he decided to head butt Garcia to intimidate him so he would not finish him off with a KO victory. That is not quitting, that is a corner protecting their fighter and his career from a very dirty fighter who should have been disqualified in that fight. BTW who else has knocked Salido down three or more times other than Garcia?
            I saw the fight differently. I'm curious, if the ref asked them if they wanted to risk their fighter getting more head butts....how many points did the ref take from Salido? I have to call BS on that, but go ahead and prove me wrong.
            Mikey definitely dominated early, but Salido kept coming and Garcia was beginning to fade around round 6 or 7. If I remember right it was a broken nose not cuts that caused his corner to want it stopped. A lot of boxers fight on with cuts or even a broken nose.

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              #106
              Originally posted by AdonisCreed
              Mikey will be competitive in this fight I already know. The more time passes the closer I think it will be. I think Spence will win by decision.
              Das gewoon omdat het fight week is en omdat ge Garcia al 5 weken hoort pijpen dat ie iets in Spence ziet wat hij voordeel uit kan halen.
              Nu zeggen ze zal dat ie beter is en betere techniek als Spence heeft, sneller is maar ik vind dat ****e onzin,
              ik ben er helemaal niet van overtuigd dat Garcia technisch beter is en sneller al helemaal niet.
              Heb je de foto's gezien wat een hoogte verschil en hoeveel Spence zijn armen langer gaan zijn?
              Hoe gaat Garcia kortbij hem geraken?
              Ik heb hem nog nooit zo zien vechten, meestal vecht hij vanop afstand, dan zal niet werken bij Spence want dies veel te goed daarvoor en zijn armen zijn veel te lang,
              veel te veel kracht,`lamont Peterson is zo een grote man,sterk en gespierd en je zag hem vlug afgebroken worden door Spence,Als Garcia moeite zal hebben met Spence te raken zoals ik vermoed zal het niet lang duren want Spence is een monster,
              en ook al kan hij Spence raken,tegen Lipinets deed zijn kracht al niet veel in de 140 klasse, wat gaat zijn kracht beteken in 147 waar Spence al groot voor is, denk dat het binnen de 6 ronden voorbij is

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                #107
                Originally posted by JWHardin
                I saw the fight differently. I'm curious, if the ref asked them if they wanted to risk their fighter getting more head butts....how many points did the ref take from Salido? I have to call BS on that, but go ahead and prove me wrong.
                Mikey definitely dominated early, but Salido kept coming and Garcia was beginning to fade around round 6 or 7. If I remember right it was a broken nose not cuts that caused his corner to want it stopped. A lot of boxers fight on with cuts or even a broken nose.
                Mikey had dropped Salido 47 times and didn’t need to continue with a broken nose. Broken by a blatant head butt

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by JWHardin
                  I saw the fight differently. I'm curious, if the ref asked them if they wanted to risk their fighter getting more head butts....how many points did the ref take from Salido? I have to call BS on that, but go ahead and prove me wrong.
                  Mikey definitely dominated early, but Salido kept coming and Garcia was beginning to fade around round 6 or 7. If I remember right it was a broken nose not cuts that caused his corner to want it stopped. A lot of boxers fight on with cuts or even a broken nose.
                  Originally posted by JWHardin
                  I saw the fight differently. I'm curious, if the ref asked them if they wanted to risk their fighter getting more head butts....how many points did the ref take from Salido? I have to call BS on that, but go ahead and prove me wrong.
                  Mikey definitely dominated early, but Salido kept coming and Garcia was beginning to fade around round 6 or 7. If I remember right it was a broken nose not cuts that caused his corner to want it stopped. A lot of boxers fight on with cuts or even a broken nose.
                  Mikey had dropped Salido 47 times and didn’t need to continue with a broken nose. Broken by a blatant head butt.

                  What’s notable about this regarding Garcia is that this happened before Salido beat Lomachenko one fight later

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                    #109
                    anyone picking a draw?

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by EL_GRINGO
                      Das gewoon omdat het fight week is en omdat ge Garcia al 5 weken hoort pijpen dat ie iets in Spence ziet wat hij voordeel uit kan halen.
                      Nu zeggen ze zal dat ie beter is en betere techniek als Spence heeft, sneller is maar ik vind dat ****e onzin,
                      ik ben er helemaal niet van overtuigd dat Garcia technisch beter is en sneller al helemaal niet.
                      Heb je de foto's gezien wat een hoogte verschil en hoeveel Spence zijn armen langer gaan zijn?
                      Hoe gaat Garcia kortbij hem geraken?
                      Ik heb hem nog nooit zo zien vechten, meestal vecht hij vanop afstand, dan zal niet werken bij Spence want dies veel te goed daarvoor en zijn armen zijn veel te lang,
                      veel te veel kracht,`lamont Peterson is zo een grote man,sterk en gespierd en je zag hem vlug afgebroken worden door Spence,Als Garcia moeite zal hebben met Spence te raken zoals ik vermoed zal het niet lang duren want Spence is een monster,
                      en ook al kan hij Spence raken,tegen Lipinets deed zijn kracht al niet veel in de 140 klasse, wat gaat zijn kracht beteken in 147 waar Spence al groot voor is, denk dat het binnen de 6 ronden voorbij is
                      ... Why do you write in Dutch???

                      "That's just because it's fight week and because you've heard Garcia blow for 5 weeks that he sees something in Spence that he can take advantage of.
                      Now they will say that he is better and has better technique than Spence is faster but I think that is **** nonsense,
                      I am not at all convinced that Garcia is technically better and certainly not faster.
                      Have you seen the photos what a height difference and how much Spence's arms are going to be longer?
                      How is Garcia going to get close to him?
                      I have never seen him fight like this, he usually fights from a distance, then it will not work at Spence because that is far too good for that and his arms are far too long,
                      far too much power, `Lamont Peterson is such a big, strong and muscular man and you saw him being cut off quickly by Spence, If Garcia will have trouble hitting Spence as I suspect it won't be long because Spence is a monster,
                      and even though he can hit Spence, his power did not do much in the 140 class against Lipinets, what will his power mean in 147 for which Spence is already great, think it will be over within 6 rounds"...

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