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  • Box"K"ing
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    Trainers that scream and yell vs Trainers that are cool and clinical?

    I have noticed that some boxing trainers like to yell and scream as well as insult their boxers to get them to perform better. When I asked what makes this type of training effective, the response is "if you cant handle the heat then get out of the kitchen"

    Then there are trainers who are quite and cerebral and they make their guys work on the pad and only speak when there is a correction to be made.


    I am curios to know if the first method produces anyone decent? I mean the trainers that I know who are in to yelling and screaming don't do well and their guys seem flustered. That and top trainers in the world seem cool and quite folks so I don't understand why the screamers don't try to take note?
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    #2
    Depends on the fighter. Some fighters react differently.

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    • R_Walken
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      #3
      Every fighters different

      Some probably up their game when confronted aggressively while others need a more calm approach

      James Kirkland seemed like he needed Ann Wolfe in his corner to be his best , While Victor Ortiz seems he would need a hug to be at his best

      But with today’s pussification of society, most boxers probably react best if their told only what their doing right followed by a hug.

      Back in the day it was acceptable for a coach/trainer to yell /scream cut the athlete down to get the desired result.Because they were men and didn’t take it to heart and cry on the inside when it happend. Bobby knight was celebrated for his approach now in the 21st century when athletes make millions and are mostly mentally softer then Egyptian Count sheets , This doesn’t seem the way to do things because imost get all in their feelings and shut down if approached like that

      I think the most important part is for the trainer to realize and use what method will get his fighters the best results.

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      • Ray*
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        Well a trainer should be able to adapt his methods to every situation, and to his boxers personality. Teddy atlas likes to scream when his boxers are doing enough, Emmanuel steward (RIP) like to berate them in a calmer way, V. hunter like to encourage them in a low voice etc but like I said I think it has to be done in accordance with the boxers personality.

        If you have a dumberas* boxer like Khan then I think you probably need to shout in his freaking head, if you have a quiet boxer then you probably need to shout in his face, some boxers need to be woken up by berating or screaming at them.

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        • Real King Kong
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          I don’t recall any trainers that scream and yell at their fighters out of the gate, like it’s just their default style of communication. You usually see them resort to that when they’re trying to light a fire or create a sense of urgency in a fighter. It comes down to having the ability to tell a fighter what they need to hear in a situation...doesn’t much matter what tone they use to do it imo.
          Last edited by Real King Kong; 03-12-2019, 01:06 AM.

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          • LoadedWraps
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            #6
            Originally posted by Box"K"ing
            I have noticed that some boxing trainers like to yell and scream as well as insult their boxers to get them to perform better. When I asked what makes this type of training effective, the response is "if you cant handle the heat then get out of the kitchen"

            Then there are trainers who are quite and cerebral and they make their guys work on the pad and only speak when there is a correction to be made.


            I am curios to know if the first method produces anyone decent? I mean the trainers that I know who are in to yelling and screaming don't do well and their guys seem flustered. That and top trainers in the world seem cool and quite folks so I don't understand why the screamers don't try to take note?
            It all depends on the fighter, and the trainer, really. What many fans fail to realize is they spend hours together in the gym, and often out of it, for pros.

            I am / was pretty close with my trainer, and I never went pro, just amateur. You develop a relationship like with anything else. And in that sense, it is a team, you work together, for one goal, and you are both putting in work, believe me. My trainer would kick my ass in a sparring match or fight too, he is bigger than me, was pro, and still has it lol. Tough as nails.

            In the army, that tough love worked well with me. I'm the type of guy that responds well to being told I don't have it, being asked if i'm ready to quit, being told i'm weak. Not that I don't respond if you encourage me also, but when you tell me I can't do something, it fires me up, it lights a fire within me, and I must prove you wrong, even if I die trying. That took me places in the military, while I was there. My trainer wasn't so much like that, but he would talk **** to me, he was mostly calm in the corner but he would get fired up too at times lol, boxing is all he knows.

            Honestly if you are the kind of guy to break down over tough love type talk, i also feel your heart in the ring is suspect, because it takes mental fortitude to get through real adversity in a fight, and get up from a knockdown that wasn't just a random one, it's a culmination of you getting beat down, not everyone has what it takes to keep going, to want to win. I know i'm probably wrong about that with some people, but I am biased towards the tough love style, because I can attest it has worked for me in life.

            Ultimately unless the fighter just switched trainers, they have a good relationship with each other long before the fight, and they know how to communicate, even if it doesn't make sense to the rest of us.

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              #7
              As long as they’re NOT creepy like Virgil hunter or a show pony like atlas it’s cool with me

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              • Box"K"ing
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                Originally posted by LoadedWraps
                It all depends on the fighter, and the trainer, really. What many fans fail to realize is they spend hours together in the gym, and often out of it, for pros.

                I am / was pretty close with my trainer, and I never went pro, just amateur. You develop a relationship like with anything else. And in that sense, it is a team, you work together, for one goal, and you are both putting in work, believe me. My trainer would kick my ass in a sparring match or fight too, he is bigger than me, was pro, and still has it lol. Tough as nails.

                In the army, that tough love worked well with me. I'm the type of guy that responds well to being told I don't have it, being asked if i'm ready to quit, being told i'm weak. Not that I don't respond if you encourage me also, but when you tell me I can't do something, it fires me up, it lights a fire within me, and I must prove you wrong, even if I die trying. That took me places in the military, while I was there. My trainer wasn't so much like that, but he would talk **** to me, he was mostly calm in the corner but he would get fired up too at times lol, boxing is all he knows.

                Honestly if you are the kind of guy to break down over tough love type talk, i also feel your heart in the ring is suspect, because it takes mental fortitude to get through real adversity in a fight, and get up from a knockdown that wasn't just a random one, it's a culmination of you getting beat down, not everyone has what it takes to keep going, to want to win. I know i'm probably wrong about that with some people, but I am biased towards the tough love style, because I can attest it has worked for me in life.

                Ultimately unless the fighter just switched trainers, they have a good relationship with each other long before the fight, and they know how to communicate, even if it doesn't make sense to the rest of us.
                I trained with a trainer who screams and another trainer who is quite and clinical. With the latter it's non stop pad work with no talking and pure concentration and 30 second break. This leads to great endurance and cardio.

                While the former doesn't take you to the same levels because they are pausing to yell and scream. It's a form of disruption the way I see it. But my opinion is irrelevant because I am searching for statistics.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Box"K"ing
                  I have noticed that some boxing trainers like to yell and scream as well as insult their boxers to get them to perform better. When I asked what makes this type of training effective, the response is "if you cant handle the heat then get out of the kitchen"

                  Then there are trainers who are quite and cerebral and they make their guys work on the pad and only speak when there is a correction to be made.


                  I am curios to know if the first method produces anyone decent? I mean the trainers that I know who are in to yelling and screaming don't do well and their guys seem flustered. That and top trainers in the world seem cool and quite folks so I don't understand why the screamers don't try to take note?
                  LMAO!!! someone screamed in your face and now your feelings are hurt? suck it up you pussieeee

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                  • Box"K"ing
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by SHOOTALLCLOWNS
                    LMAO!!! someone screamed in your face and now your feelings are hurt? suck it up you pussieeee

                    Lol the irony of being called a puusssiiie isn't lost on me. The moment I asked a question you got so defensive that you had to resort to some feminist shame tactic.

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