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  • #11
    Originally posted by Granath View Post
    It's not that simple. It never is. The punch must CAUSE the knockdown, not just be in close proximity to the knockdown. Porter's right toe clearly makes contact with the mat and clearly slides out from under him after the punch. That's the definition of a slip which cannot cause a knockdown.

    It's your prerogative to continue to disagree with the video evidence and the referee. But it's a flat-earth argument as the video is quite clear when replayed in slo-mo. The ref saw it and instantly called it a slip too.
    This is getting comical. I watched in slo mo, and saw Porter go down after getting punched.

    From your words....Porters foot slipped out from underneath him right after he was punched.
    If that is the definition of a slip how would you define a knockdown?

    A lot of boxers get caught out of position or off balance, and get knocked down by a punch. (Foot or feet slip out causing them to fall)
    If a punch causes them to go down it is a knockdown.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by JWHardin View Post
      This is getting comical. I watched in slo mo, and saw Porter go down after getting punched.

      From your words....Porters foot slipped out from underneath him right after he was punched.
      If that is the definition of a slip how would you define a knockdown?

      A lot of boxers get caught out of position or off balance, and get knocked down by a punch. (Foot or feet slip out causing them to fall)
      If a punch causes them to go down it is a knockdown.
      So if a boxer slipped on water after a slight jab you'd score that a knockdown? Or if I put my glove on you and shove (hard to distinguish between a punch and a shove) and you stumble backwards into the ropes that's a knockdown? How interesting.

      But those aren't the scoring rules of boxing. A slip can't cause a knockdown, especially after a blocked punch. If that had been a clean shot you'd have a better argument. It wasn't and trying to pretend that would even cause a knockdown is stretching it. Porter braced on his back toe and the foot slipped, ostensibly due to moisture on the canvas. That's a slip. The ref saw it and called it immediately. There's no controversy here unless someone is rooting for Ugas and looking for a reason he lost the fight (which was due to his lowered jab rate the last 6 rounds).

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