Mayweather/Maidana 2 foreshadowed that Manny had no chance against Floyd.

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    Mayweather/Maidana 2 foreshadowed that Manny had no chance against Floyd.

    Let me clarify and refresh.

    Chino Maidana is one of only three Floyd opponents to get close to beating him. Now, the main reason for the close first fight was Chino's aggression and awkward fighting style where Floyd took longer than usual to make adjustments.

    Second fight and you have Kenny Bayless in there preventing Chino from 99% of his dirty tactics. So that's good. But then it happened: a key moment at the end bell of a round. It was this moment I knew 100%: there was no way Manny Pacquiao could beat this guy.

    You see, Chino is known for not only awkward punches and sneaky shots where his eyes are focused different than where he throws (Which is why Broner kept getting tagged), but he also has power in exchanges. The power is enough to get you IF you don't see the shots coming (Ortiz, Broner, Khan).

    So what happened in Mayweather/Maidana 2? Floyd ate a completely flush right, damn near the same shot that Marquez slept Manny with, with damn near the same square up...and Floyd didn't go down. Not only did he not go down, he completely recovered for the rest of the fight. Meaning he expected he might get countered and prepared to take the shot. That's shocking ring IQ.

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    Floyd was ready for the potential of a punch coming back at him and took it extremely well. Manny didn't prepare and got faceplanted for his troubles.

    What's significant is that you're dealing with a guy who hasn't taken very many shots like this in a lengthy career. Besides Mosley, the closest I can think of was Jesus Chavez.

    What's also significant is it was a counter to a pull counter - Floyd's head was in forward momentum - just like when Manny tried to come forward off a jab feint. From this angle Manny looked like a rookie and you have to wonder if he was overconfident or had his marbles rocked from the previous knockdown.



    But one guy ended up face down on the canvas for 5 minutes....the other guy would stay on his feet and go on to a clear victory.

    Anyone betting on Manny after seeing those two results deserved to lose their money.
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    Love that clip there. Maidana hits Floyd with a great shot and whats the 1st thing Bayliss does? Gets in between them. "Hey Chino no hitting Floyd now come on"

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      #3
      Originally posted by DaNeutral.
      Love that clip there. Maidana hits Floyd with a great shot and whats the 1st thing Bayliss does? Gets in between them. "Hey Chino no hitting Floyd now come on"
      It was the end of the round - look at Bayless's mouth, he's screaming "STOP!" because the bell had just rung for the end of the round.

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        Originally posted by revelated
        It was the end of the round - look at Bayless's mouth, he's screaming "STOP!" because the bell had just rung for the end of the round.
        All i see is Floyd getting punched and Bayliss shouting Stop. Story of his career.

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          You know Manny had no chance when Marquez starched him. Manny would have beat him in 2009 2010 that’s why Floyd stayed away and accused him of steroids while he was using them than cleaning his system out with his IV Flush must be nice you can go home after the weigh in and use your IV Flush

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            #6
            Originally posted by DaNeutral.
            Love that clip there. Maidana hits Floyd with a great shot and whats the 1st thing Bayliss does? Gets in between them. "Hey Chino no hitting Floyd now come on"
            Helped he was using them Alex Ariza shakes

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              #7
              Originally posted by DaNeutral.
              All i see is Floyd getting punched and Bayliss shouting Stop. Story of his career.
              You can feign ignorance about the fact that shot happened right at the bell. That's you.

              Done.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Luilun
                You know Manny had no chance when Marquez starched him. Manny would have beat him in 2009 2010 that’s why Floyd stayed away and accused him of steroids while he was using them than cleaning his system out with his IV Flush must be nice you can go home after the weigh in and use your IV Flush
                All I know is, one guy was walking through much larger fighters including ones who had never been stopped, and another guy was going the distance with guys his same size.

                If I'm inclined to theorize about steroids, I don't suspect the guy going the distance.

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                  #9
                  Pacquiao never had any chance against Floyd. If the fight had happened in 2009 it would have been the exact same result.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by pillowfists98
                    Pacquiao never had any chance against Floyd. If the fight had happened in 2009 it would have been the exact same result.
                    Maybe not EXACT same. Remember, Floyd was making guys headbutt turnbuckles into TKOs back then. I can easily see Manny lunging into a buckle off a check hook just like Hatton.

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