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  • The Big Dunn
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    #11
    Originally posted by redmish
    Big Frank by stoppage after jabbing his head off for a couple of rounds. His boxing was underrated but don't forget he was ahead on the scorecards against Lewis when they fought in Cardiff all them years ago. Bruno's problem was that he would never take a knee when he was hurt, and usually got stopped on his feet.
    He was ahead of Lewis. He was ahead of Bonecrusher. He got KTFO both times. It's only fair to look at the whole fight, not just the parts where Bruno was excelling.

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      #12
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      I apologize, shorter. Given Bruno's career it is completely fair and reasonable to think he'd lose by late KO to a fighter with Wilder's power even though he is the overall more skilled boxer.

      Your response was ridiculous and showed a clear lack of emotional maturity.
      Late KO? THe more likely result is Bruno stops Wilder in the first half. Wilder is ****ing skill less. I disagree, your response is ridiculous. Both are big punchers, but Bruno being far more skilled would be far far more likely to land and hurt Wilder.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
        Late KO? THe more likely result is Bruno stops Wilder in the first half. Wilder is ****ing skill less. I disagree, your response is ridiculous. Both are big punchers, but Bruno being far more skilled would be far far more likely to land and hurt Wilder.
        Old Bruno always had leads in big fights except the Tyson Fights. However he was stiff and Got winded easily. He also didnt have the best chin either. Wilder would look foolish for a while but in the end he would dent old China chinned Bruno.

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          #14
          Wilder has nothing but a punchers chance against any top 10 HW in any era. He's the most skill less title holder in history. The skilled big punchers of the past would be far more likely to KO Wilder than the other way around. They'd land a lot more than Wilder would. Common sense.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Fangedgrowl
            Old Bruno always had leads in big fights except the Tyson Fights. However he was stiff and Got winded easily. He also didnt have the best chin either. Wilder would look foolish for a while but in the end he would dent old China chinned Bruno.
            Again completely ignoring that Bruno is a big puncher. You admit Bruno would dominate. So likely big hitting Bruno stops the skill less bum Wilder.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
              Late KO? THe more likely result is Bruno stops Wilder in the first half. Wilder is ****ing skill less. I disagree, your response is ridiculous. Both are big punchers, but Bruno being far more skilled would be far far more likely to land and hurt Wilder.
              Wilder has never been stopped and has shown a good chin in the Ortiz fight. Bruno's KO wins in the 1st 6 rounds are all against low level opponents with the exception of James Tillis.

              You have no rational evidence to justify Bruno by early KO other than nationalism.

              On the other hand, we have 3 instances-Lewis, Witherspoon and Smith-where Bruno was doing well and winning rounds only to get KTFO late. 2 of those fights are against men he is clearly better than.

              Additionally, Tyson Fury is far more skilled than Wilder as well. He was outboxing Wilder the whole fight but got caught twice late. Bruno MAYBE gets up in the 9th. No way in hell he gets up from the shot Fury did in the 12th and you know this.

              My pick is reasonable and rooted solely in the careers of both men.

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                #17
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                Wilder has never been stopped and has shown a good chin in the Ortiz fight. Bruno's KO wins in the 1st 6 rounds are all against low level opponents with the exception of James Tillis.

                You have no rational evidence to justify Bruno by early KO other than nationalism.

                On the other hand, we have 3 instances-Lewis, Witherspoon and Smith-where Bruno was doing well and winning rounds only to get KTFO late. 2 of those fights are against men he is clearly better than.

                Additionally, Tyson Fury is far more skilled than Wilder as well. He was outboxing Wilder the whole fight but got caught twice late. Bruno MAYBE gets up in the 9th. No way in hell he gets up from the shot Fury did in the 12th and you know this.

                My pick is reasonable and rooted solely in the careers of both men.
                Wilder has hardly fought any punchers. Bruno would be the biggest he's ever faced. Wilder is a low level opponent. Bruno would be landing big punches and Wilder would get stopped. It's OK eating punches against light/average punches, eating them from someone like Bruno would end Wilder.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                  Wilder has nothing but a punchers chance against any top 10 HW in any era. He's the most skill less title holder in history. The skilled big punchers of the past would be far more likely to KO Wilder than the other way around. They'd land a lot more than Wilder would. Common sense.
                  Robbie you are looking only at the positives about Bruno and not the whole fighter. Yes Bruno is a big puncher, he also lacks stamina and has folded in a a number of big fights. WIlder is a bum IMO, but he is far better than most of Bruno's wins.

                  The reality is if Bruno doesn't get him out early, which isn't likely given we've seen Wilder display a good chin, Bruno will tire late and get KTFO.

                  You can't make Bruno something he isn't.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                    Wilder has hardly fought any punchers. Bruno would be the biggest he's ever faced. Wilder is a low level opponent. Bruno would be landing big punches and Wilder would get stopped. It's OK eating punches against light/average punches, eating them from someone like Bruno would end Wilder.
                    Ortiz is a huge puncher Robbie. He survived. Bruno has never survived guys that hit as hard as Wilder. NEVER.

                    Look, you make fair points you are just not being honest about Bruno as a fighter. You keep talking only about his positives but nothing about the negatives.

                    Bruno's lack of a chin and stamina issue negate the skill advantage he has over a guy like Wilder. Bruno is not great defensively either, so I don't know how he keeps Wilder from landing.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                      Robbie you are looking only at the positives about Bruno and not the whole fighter. Yes Bruno is a big puncher, he also lacks stamina and has folded in a a number of big fights. WIlder is a bum IMO, but he is far better than most of Bruno's wins.

                      The reality is if Bruno doesn't get him out early, which isn't likely given we've seen Wilder display a good chin, Bruno will tire late and get KTFO.

                      You can't make Bruno something he isn't.
                      How has Wilder shown a good chin? He fought one puncher, was saved by the bell and got extra rest at the start of the next rounf to recover. Absolute nonsense.

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