Why do people like to say fury was “ko’d“ by wilder?

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  • Eff Pandas
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    #41
    Originally posted by SplitSecond
    His head doesnt bounce off the canvas. This is the reason we get people talking sht. No one actually pays attention to anything but still give their opinions.
    Lmfao wut? Did you watch the fight? What did Fury's head do when he fell levitate or some sh^t? His head CLEARLY & without argument hits the canvas. I believe Al or someone else even mentioned his head hitting the canvas during the telecast.

    And that can often happen, this is something that happens?(knocked out nad wake up upon hitting head off canvas). First i've heard of it.
    Probably much more often in MMA where their are more legit KOs. Sometimes it occurs when another punch lands in a flurry too before a guy drops.

    And "often" is relative in my usage there I suppose so if you took it as I'm saying its a regular occurrence that happens weekly or monthly or w/e that was my error in word choice.

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    • SplitSecond
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      #42
      Originally posted by New England
      jack rees immedialtey brushed fury's hands away. and we have a vastly different definition of clear eyed

      are you american or british? how much british boxing do you watch? british refs stop fights for a hell of a lot less than that.


      just f#cking look at this dude. clear eyed? most refs wouldn't have stopped it? do you know more than paulie malignaggi, the best expert commentator in all of boxing right now? get the fug out of here, please!
      https://www.sho.com/video/65123/wild...ry-in-round-12
      Find a better quality video. Fury is looking the ref dead in the eyes, he even adjusts his head to look at him better to show him he's fine.

      There's another angle from the side that zooms in, or just get a better quality vid of the angle you showed me, he is clear eyed.

      And no, im not american or british and I know british refs tend to stop fights quicker, still dont think anyone would have stopped it in reiss' place, as soon as he gies over to check on tyson his eyes are already clear and he looks at him. When a guy is clearly out, a ref often times will still count whilst going onto a knee and seeing if the guy is awake, tyson was awake, so he gave him the chance to get up. If that fight was stopped that'd be the real travesty/controversy.

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      • SplitSecond
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        #43
        Originally posted by Eff Pandas
        Lmfao wut? Did you watch the fight? What did Fury's head do when he fell levitate or some sh^t? His head CLEARLY & without argument hits the canvas. I believe Al or someone else even mentioned his head hitting the canvas during the telecast.



        Probably much more often in MMA where their are more legit KOs. Sometimes it occurs when another punch lands in a flurry too before a guy drops.

        And "often" is relative in my usage there I suppose so if you took it as I'm saying its a regular occurrence that happens weekly or monthly or w/e that was my error in word choice.
        It's called bracing yourself. He catches himself as he goes.

        I think that canvas thing you're just thinking of a fighter gaining consciousness anyway after a flash kd. I dont think the knock itself would wake someone.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Toffee
          Plenty say it on here. They talk about long counts.

          There is some case for stating that some refs would wave it straight off but I don't buy that either. Jack looked him in the eyes and saw enough to give him a chance to carry on.

          And when Tyson claims he was out cold for 5 seconds I reckon he's talking ***** to add to the myth, the story.
          I have said, and still stand by it saying 99% of the ref's would have waved off the fight. By his own and the ref's admission, besides it being on video, Fury didn't even open his eyes until the count of 5, then got up. The rest is history.

          I doubt if anyone can find one example of a ref kneeling beside a guy knocked down and out like Fury was and continuing to count while giving him a chance to get up.

          We can't change the result now, but the rematch would have no doubt settled it one way or another. (If Fury thought he would win for sure, they would be fighting a rematch) I guess the fight needs marinating. smh

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          • jas
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            #45
            yea, he wasnt out cold although the referee did initially think he was

            the referee jack reiss recapped what he saw and he said something like fury was startled when he got to the number 5 in the count because he realised he had to get up soon

            at the 12min mark:





            fury said he didnt wanna get up too soon and not have his legs under him

            seemed like he prepped for the scenario of being knocked down. very professional camp.

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            • SplitSecond
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              #46
              Originally posted by Eff Pandas
              Lmfao wut? Did you watch the fight? What did Fury's head do when he fell levitate or some sh^t? His head CLEARLY & without argument hits the canvas. I believe Al or someone else even mentioned his head hitting the canvas during the telecast.



              Probably much more often in MMA where their are more legit KOs. Sometimes it occurs when another punch lands in a flurry too before a guy drops.

              And "often" is relative in my usage there I suppose so if you took it as I'm saying its a regular occurrence that happens weekly or monthly or w/e that was my error in word choice.
              They have an angle that shows it: https://********/5K9j65RzjpQ?t=1h6m25s

              It should start at the timestamp of 1:06:25.
              Last edited by SplitSecond; 03-01-2019, 01:25 PM.

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              • alexguiness
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                #47
                Originally posted by chaosisme
                Black Power probably.
                Yes, Fury was clearly being racist in not staying down and giving Wilder the KO.

                Blatant white privilege on display.

                Same thing happened when Black Panther failed to win best picture at the Oscars, it was a cinematic masterpiece yet the Hollywood *** mafia made sure it would not win.

                What does a brother have to do to get an opportunity, more affirmative action?

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                • EdWins
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                  #48
                  Fury wasn't dropped but he was knocked on his ass and clearly hurt.

                  If the roles were reversed if it was fury who knocked wilder down and the same result happened a draw, people in here would be crying robbery on furys behalf.

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                  • New England
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by SplitSecond
                    Find a better quality video. Fury is looking the ref dead in the eyes, he even adjusts his head to look at him better to show him he's fine.

                    There's another angle from the side that zooms in, or just get a better quality vid of the angle you showed me, he is clear eyed.

                    And no, im not american or british and I know british refs tend to stop fights quicker, still dont think anyone would have stopped it in reiss' place, as soon as he gies over to check on tyson his eyes are already clear and he looks at him. When a guy is clearly out, a ref often times will still count whilst going onto a knee and seeing if the guy is awake, tyson was awake, so he gave him the chance to get up. If that fight was stopped that'd be the real travesty/controversy.

                    you gotta know better than paulie malignaggi and a score of other experts and writers, who thought jack rees did a hell of a job and did something a lot of refs wouldn't do!


                    maybe there is something wrong with your PC, that video i showed you is in 1080 P on my end

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by New England
                      he wasn't knocked out, but this "not wobbly at all" stuff is ridiculous. dude got knocked to the f#cking ground FFS.

                      and when he got up and leaned on jack rees, not wobbly, right?


                      most refs stop that fight. that's just a fact. credit to jack rees, he's one of the best refs in boxing at the moment.
                      he showed very little effect from the kd...it surprised the hell out of me, but it is what it is. he didn't stumble once and was completely composed.

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