Kostya Tszyu was a better amateur & professional than GGG

**Quaccey** · 02-27-2019, 07:50 AM

Originally posted by sunny31

I also have Tszyu down as a better puncher tbh, he stopped more championship level fighters.

Yet he never had nearly the same hype and clout as GGG has had. I've never really understood it.

Don't get me wrong he's a great fighter and has really proved himself over the past couple of years but his career and accomplishments have been vastly overrated, his p4p ranking normally inflated, in reality he's on the same level as the other top 154-160 lbers...he was never able to create the separation his fans, and followers promised. The Jacobs fight was nip and tuck, so we're both Canelo fights, and I'd imagine anyone else at that level it would be a similar story.

Tszyu arguably beat better fighters in a more impressive fashion, but at the very least his resume stacks up against GGGs, yet one guy is seen by many as one of the greatest middleweights of all time and the other a solid HOFer at best

There is a myth around GGG which makes people believe he is better than he is, I've never quite been able to put my finger on why

G is cool, but he's not the greatest or one of the greatest anything. I don't have much knowledge on tszyu aside from he beat zab when he was good. Remember G and his people said anyone from 154-168 and we see how that turned out the beginning and middle points of his career were virtually trash fighters like geale and wade his toughest fight was kell brook a blown up welterweight. He never delivered on his drama show with lemieux either, so his ranking is much lower in reality. He should've had tough fights from the beginning or at least much better opponents then he'd be ready for the challenge canelo and Jacobs presented, but that's beside the point. Tszyu has done more per weight than G bottom line.

**SplitSecond** · 02-27-2019, 07:53 AM

Because Golovkin knew how to hype himself. I dunno about Golovkin being one of the greatest middleweights but he is a more skilled fighter than kosta tszyu.

Anyway, his career went like I said it would, he never got a chance to shine in his prime.

**adotd** · 02-27-2019, 08:13 AM

Originally posted by SplitSecond

Because Golovkin knew how to hype himself. I dunno about Golovkin being one of the greatest middleweights but he is a more skilled fighter than kosta tszyu.

Anyway, his career went like I said it would, he never got a chance to shine in his prime.

Agreed, no one wanted to fight GGG until he looked aged and vulnerable in the Brook fight, then more so in the Jacobs fight. Not his fault at all, and just a damn shame.

**Sun_Tzu** · 02-27-2019, 08:16 AM

I think they are both excellent fighters. I enjoyed watching them both.

**VatoMulatto** · 02-27-2019, 08:22 AM

What exactly makes him a better pro??? Both have solid but not great reumes. I never saw GGG get KO'd not even stunned. Vince Phillips knocked a prime Tszyu the f-ck out.

**Mindgames** · 02-27-2019, 10:25 AM

Originally posted by sunny31

I also have Tszyu down as a better puncher tbh, he stopped more championship level fighters.

Yet he never had nearly the same hype and clout as GGG has had. I've never really understood it.

Don't get me wrong he's a great fighter and has really proved himself over the past couple of years but his career and accomplishments have been vastly overrated, his p4p ranking normally inflated, in reality he's on the same level as the other top 154-160 lbers...he was never able to create the separation his fans, and followers promised. The Jacobs fight was nip and tuck, so we're both Canelo fights, and I'd imagine anyone else at that level it would be a similar story.

Tszyu arguably beat better fighters in a more impressive fashion, but at the very least his resume stacks up against GGGs, yet one guy is seen by many as one of the greatest middleweights of all time and the other a solid HOFer at best

There is a myth around GGG which makes people believe he is better than he is, I've never quite been able to put my finger on why

Tszyus win over Judah, in the context of the time, is probably better than GGGS win in everything but name over Canelo in the first fight. But Golovkin didnt have life and death with guys like Hurtado, and wasnt stopped mid prime by a guy like Philips. He also was beating Jacobs and splitting fights with Canelo at the same stage of career Tszyu was getting bashed up by Ricky Hatton. So its debatable.

**Rock&Roll** · 02-27-2019, 10:43 AM

Tyszu was one of best lightweight, not middleweight (OP - 2nd last paragraph)

Golovkin has more charisma and personality than Tyszu, which tends to makes people like him more. This Creates a natural bias when people evaluate him as a fighter or on a p4p list etc.

As mentioned already, Golovkin has never looked like hitting the canvas whereas Tyszu got clean ko�d.
In saying that, after the ko i think Tyszu retired for a bit or was thinking about it and then thought, nah i�m coming back to take over the division - which he did. That takes a lot of heard to come back from a big ko and unify a division.

I�ll always remember Kostya�s destiny speech after knocking out Judah in rd 2... I will also never forget Judah acting like a bittttccchhh.
For those who haven�t seen the Judah �I�m superman� and �I don�t cry or whinge� video, it�s a must see.

https://*************/watch?v=1-tgV_J2RaI

As for who�s better, who gives af. There both awesome to watch.

**richardt** · 02-27-2019, 11:45 AM

Originally posted by VatoMulatto

What exactly makes him a better pro??? Both have solid but not great resumes. I never saw GGG get KO'd not even stunned. Vince Phillips knocked a prime Tszyu the f-ck out.

Exactly. GGG would never lose to a Vince Phillips type fighter in his prime, and not even now outside of his prime.

**ELHITMAN606** · 02-27-2019, 12:02 PM

Tszyu was also Undisputed he was far better legacy than Golovki�

Kostya Tszyu was a better amateur & professional than GGG