If Wilder is sending his own offers......

[DaNeutral.]

Sending his own offers on from his own personal email on his home PC isnt it about time he started cutting out some of his managers out of their money? They are partly to blame for him not being a global superstar or just an American one. They have also backed him all the way and no doubt given their professional views and now he isnt fighting Joshua for a hell of alot of money and the chance to be undiputed, he isnt even rematching Fury to avenge a draw (loss).

He will be fighting Breazeale, Not on PPV. What did he say? He was cutting Joshua out and taking control of his own career? That has been a defeat to Fury and now having to go back to non PPV after just 1 fight. What a way to take control of your career, lucky to still have his belt.

Its about time he fired some of these leach managers off. Who the hell sends their own offers from their own personal email account? Even if you are one of those rabid Wilder fan girls youve gotta wonder why one of his 56 managers has not been writing up proper professional offers and contracts? You gotta ask cuz the rest of us are thinking that Team Wilder are looking very very amateur right now.

[R_Walken]

Yes fire a team that consists of the most powerful men in the sport who’ve put together the biggest fights and made him a multi millionaire many times over . Makes sense to me to can them because the believable story of him sending a email to Hearn and AJ and his team co-signing this approach as the way to have AJ and his team accept the 50m, who although have made the biggest fights thought for this one ,the biggest fight to be made in the sport that having them act like it’s Amateur hour was the right way to go about things this time and appear that Wilder and his team thought Wikder sending a email with no proof would show their serious and also to include in this professional non offer was that AJ must break his contract with Sky and fight on BT because they knew this would show that they not only wanted the offer to be accepted and AJ would break his contract it also showed how serious they wanted to make this fight with having according to Hearn the only other stipulation included in Wilders email.

I think it’s also fair to blame Wilder for believing Fury wanted the rematch and Wilder and his team negotiating in good faith offering a 50/50 split was proof he didn’t really want the fight . it’s his fault he wasn’t expecting Fury to pull some shady by negotiating with Top Rank on the low and at the last minute make a decision that would appear that he’s running away from a rematch. This is also Wilders fault

What a punch clowns Wilder and team are

[NearHypnos]

Yes fire a team that consists of the most powerful men in the sport who’ve put together the biggest fights and made him a multi millionaire many times over . Makes sense to me to can them because the believable story of him sending a email to Hearn and AJ and his team co-signing this approach as the way to have AJ and his team accept the 50m, who although have made the biggest fights thought for this one ,the biggest fight to be made in the sport that having them act like it’s Amateur hour was the right way to go about things this time and appear that Wilder and his team thought Wikder sending a email with no proof would show their serious and also to include in this professional non offer was that AJ must break his contract with Sky and fight on BT because they knew this would show that they not only wanted the offer to be accepted and AJ would break his contract it also showed how serious they wanted to make this fight with having according to Hearn the only other stipulation included in Wilders email.

I think it’s also fair to blame Wilder for believing Fury wanted the rematch and Wilder and his team negotiating in good faith offering a 50/50 split was proof he didn’t really want the fight . it’s his fault he wasn’t expecting Fury to pull some shady by negotiating with Top Rank on the low and at the last minute make a decision that would appear that he’s running away from a rematch. This is also Wilders fault

What a punch clowns Wilder and team are

You’ll have to excuse fury for makin a 100mil’ish deal and not signing up immediately for a fight against a guy (on a good faith basis lmao) to get robbed again.


Oh, the AUDACITY of everyone not doing what Wilder wants while they are bigger names and making more money. Those jerks. How dare they go out and make more money than Wilder and what he offers. Everyone knows Fury won that fight to make matters worse..he Is the bigger name. Has the better deal.

The more we find out, the dumber wilder’s team has looked and the worse theyve made Wilder look.

You cant show up to the table trying to call shots with a bag of quarters and trash contracts. You think everyone is dumb enough to not know that the one who benefits most from all these dumb deals is Wilder?

It’s literally been on some amateur hour s hit.

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You’ll have to excuse fury for makin a 100mil’ish deal and not signing up immediately for a fight against a guy (on a good faith basis lmao) to get robbed again.


Oh, the AUDACITY of everyone not doing what Wilder wants while they are bigger names and making more money. Those jerks. How dare they go out and make more money than Wilder and what he offers. Everyone knows Fury won that fight to make matters worse..he Is the bigger name. Has the better deal.

The more we find out, the dumber wilder’s team has looked and the worse theyve made Wilder look.

You cant show up to the table trying to call shots with a bag of quarters and trash contracts. You think everyone is dumb enough to not know that the one who benefits most from all these dumb deals is Wilder?

It’s literally been on some amateur hour s hit.

Lets be real, Fury didn't sign no 100 million dollar deal. People really believe Arum and ESPN is going to give him 20 million per fight to fight Parker and Pulev? No way any of those fights bring in enough revenue to pay Fury 20 million. Arum wouldn't guarantee Manny 20 million to fight Crawford because the money wasn't there but he's going to pay Fury that?

[R_Walken]

You’ll have to excuse fury for makin a 100mil’ish deal and not signing up immediately for a fight against a guy (on a good faith basis lmao) to get robbed again.


Oh, the AUDACITY of everyone not doing what Wilder wants while they are bigger names and making more money. Those jerks. How dare they go out and make more money than Wilder and what he offers. Everyone knows Fury won that fight to make matters worse..he Is the bigger name. Has the better deal.

The more we find out, the dumber wilder’s team has looked and the worse theyve made Wilder look.

You cant show up to the table trying to call shots with a bag of quarters and trash contracts. You think everyone is dumb enough to not know that the one who benefits most from all these dumb deals is Wilder?

It’s literally been on some amateur hour s hit.

Fury isn’t making a 100 mil to fight mostly on regular Espn , So stop believing the headlines even Arum admitted that

Why have negotiations if no intention to sign, TOp Ranks been in Fury’s ear simce Sept, If there was no intention on Fury part to have a rematch that was a 50/50 split not like he’s was getting the short end of the stick . why negotiate like you want one in the first place . The move was shady and not honourable, not a good look and makes it seem like the guy who you think was robbed ran away from a rematch , you think he won so easily but won’t mention him lying lifeless on the canvas in the 12th or not taking on the rematch which doesnt make it seem like he won so easily , the rematch winner would be unquestionably one of the top 2 HWs and would have a strap and increased leverage when it was time to make a AJ fight, a fight that would be the biggest in the sport. 50/50 is now a bad deal according to you , Fury made millions of dollars for the first 1 people think in the area of 7-9 mil how is this a bag of quarters. With the rematch almost guaranteed to be a bigger financial fight . How is a 50/50 split with a potential 8 figure payday with everything that was on the line as far as the HW division a bad deal.



Makes sense to turn that down to fight international stars like Pulev , Parker , Shwartz and what ever other 2nd tier HW for Fury to fight on Espn

I’m a fan and glad he got a bag of $ even if not 100 mil he’s still laughing and a chance to make a name in the States . But from a fans perspective he splintered the HW division further and made the fights with AJ / Wilder harder to make and he swerved a rematch that if he won sets him up for a opportunity to be undisputed in the biggest HW fight in decades , now it’ll be spent probably fighting names no ones cares about for the next 2-2 1/2 years while maintaining he’s the lineal. Not a good look in my opinion

Who are these bigger names Fury will fight who isnt named Wilder ? Because going to TR made the only name who’s bigger AJ harder to make as well

Fury isn’t a bigger name compared to Wilder, His fight before he was on a undercard and he’s had 2 of his fights broadcast in the States in entire career , 1 was a fight in the daytime no one cared about and the other while a great performance on his part and a career defining win, it was viewed as the most boring fight they’ve ever seen . These are the characteristics of big draw

You can write paragraphs making up false reasons and lie to yourself why besides making Furys bank acct huge ( which shouldn’t even concern you )this was good move for the sport and the fans and Fury looks better then if he took the rematch. But you and I and everyone else knows that isnt the case

[NearHypnos]

Fury isn’t making a 100 mil to fight mostly on regular Espn , So stop believing the headlines even Arum admitted that

Why have negotiations if no intention to sign, TOp Ranks been in Fury’s ear simce Sept, If there was no intention on Fury part to have a rematch that was a 50/50 split not like he’s was getting the short end of the stick . why negotiate like you want one in the first place . The move was shady and not honourable, not a good look and makes it seem like the guy who you think was robbed ran away from a rematch , you think he won so easily but won’t mention him lying lifeless on the canvas in the 12th or not taking on the rematch which doesnt make it seem like he won so easily , the rematch winner would be unquestionably one of the top 2 HWs and would have a strap and increased leverage when it was time to make a AJ fight, a fight that would be the biggest in the sport. 50/50 is now a bad deal according to you , Fury made millions of dollars for the first 1 people think in the area of 7-9 mil how is this a bag of quarters. With the rematch almost guaranteed to be a bigger financial fight . How is a 50/50 split with a potential 8 figure payday with everything that was on the line as far as the HW division a bad deal.



Makes sense to turn that down to fight international stars like Pulev , Parker , Shwartz and what ever other 2nd tier HW for Fury to fight on Espn

I’m a fan and glad he got a bag of $ even if not 100 mil he’s still laughing and a chance to make a name in the States . But from a fans perspective he splintered the HW division further and made the fights with AJ / Wilder harder to make and he swerved a rematch that if he won sets him up for a opportunity to be undisputed in the biggest HW fight in decades , now it’ll be spent probably fighting names no ones cares about for the next 2-2 1/2 years while maintaining he’s the lineal. Not a good look in my opinion

Who are these bigger names Fury will fight who isnt named Wilder ? Because going to TR made the only name who’s bigger AJ harder to make as well

Fury isn’t a bigger name compared to Wilder, His fight before he was on a undercard and he’s had 2 of his fights broadcast in the States in entire career , 1 was a fight in the daytime no one cared about and the other while a great performance on his part and a career defining win, it was viewed as the most boring fight they’ve ever seen . These are the characteristics of big draw

You can write paragraphs making up false reasons and lie to yourself why besides making Furys bank acct huge ( which shouldn’t even concern you )this was good move for the sport and the fans and Fury looks better then if he took the rematch. But you and I and everyone else knows that isnt the case

He already fought Wilder and won in most eyes. He was the first to beat Wlad of the three (with Wilder not having fought him.)

The biggest fight at HW has always been Fury vs AJ and the way Fury got dropped vs Wilder, he’s in very real danger.

The problem is you guys all say things like “Lol you cant believe everything Fury’s camp is saying..but here...believe it from Wilder’s.” Wilder has been the common denominator in the AJ fight not getting done and now the Fury fight not getting done. At some point you have to sit back and say, “Well...s hit... I think wilder and his camp are the problem.”

AJ is having pick of the litter and is the one clearing out thw HW division and fighting anyone who even resembles a top challenger. Who are these people that Fury can fight? Who cares? He already arguably beat Wilder and he beat Wlad and is running with that whole bogus lineal champ s hit. Wilder needs him more than Fury needs him. That you think Wilder is a bigger name than Fury is weird as if the hw division revolved around the states despite number one and two being from the UK.

As fans, yes..it sucks...but they’re under no obligation to please the fans and you can ask Wilder that as proof, seeing as his team did f uck all in trying to secure AJ and had a cherry pick gone bad with Fury who had looked absolutely atrocious before.

It’s nice to sound noble and like we shouldnt care about what they get paid but the bottom line is, money talks in boxing. And we’ve got dubious info at BEST from Wilder’s side and Fury and AJ have been the ones doing all the fighting.

Aj is the one fighting too contenders and who beat Wlad and holds nearly all the belts. Fury is the one who made that first Wilder fight and put his money where his mouth was.

What’s wilder going to do? Serious question. Fight Stiverne again? Think fighters are going to be responding to Wilder’s personal emails sounding like some nigerian prince offering 50 mil when the guy in his biggest fight has not come even close to that?

I’ve defended Wilder for a LOOONG time off the basis of being American but you’ve got to be blind and in full denial to keep defending these amateur negotiation tactics.


Fury can make millions fighting whoever in the UK. Why WOULDNT I believe a reported deal he made with ESPN? Because I should curse the world for not giving us a rematch with Wilder? I personally dont care for it. The man won 10 rounds and the best he could get was a draw. Wilder is the one who needs to prove to us fans it was a fluke, not Fury.

Keep telling yourselves the world is the problem, not Wilder’s team... while everyone goes out and makes much more money without him without having to pretend to send fake contracts or emails or secret handshake agreements or sliding people napkin contracts under the table or whatever the f uck they try to spin.

Fury should be leading to an AJ fight, not Wilder. Fury can literally do no better outside of not getting dropped...and as a fan, that’s disgusting to think about that happening to him again. Keep it moving and fight different people. If Wilder can land a shot at AJ i’ll still be rooting for him but it doesnt mean I think this has been an absolute sh it show.