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  • Scipio2009
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    #61
    Originally posted by Mister Wolf
    The Porter family has said they want PPV type money. The kind of money Mikey is getting. Kenny said if the offer isnt that then dont even call. I'm sure Porter would be more than happy to defend against mandatories than fight Spence for money he isnt happy with.
    Thurman-Pacquiao in July (with MGM Resorts in Las Vegas) on SHOPPV. SpenceJr-Porter in August (again at AT&T Stadium or at Barclays Center) on FOX PPV.

    That's my guess anyway. Massage the schedule a bit.

    Wilder-Fury was December 2018, Pacquiao-Broner in January, Spence-Mikey in March (was supposed to be Wilder-Fury 2 in May), Thurman-Pacquiao in July, Spence-Porter in August, and possibly a Wilder PPV to close out the year.

    6 PBC PPVs, with each show getting it's own space

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    • millcitymauler
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      #62
      Originally posted by hitking
      Not interested. And to be honest, Spence is starting to get on my nerves. I don’t have a huge problem with the Mikey fight. But I’m ready to see him challenge himself. Some of it is outta his hands. Crawford is gonna be tough for political reasons. Thurman doesn’t wanna fight him. So Spence needs to start looking at guys in higher divisions. He’s a big welterweight and will eventually fight as a middleweight. Why not target Hurd at 154 either this summer or fall?
      I’ve been a Spence fan from the beginning, but it’s becoming obvious that he’s morphing into a product of this Floyd/post-Floyd era, where making the most money by taking the least risk is the accepted formula. Kinda weird it’s come to this, cus out of all the newcomers in the past few years, Spence seemed like the real throwback-type fighter.

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      • Scipio2009
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        #63
        Originally posted by BigStomps
        😆🤣 That's my point exactly! Nutt swallowers like you are content to have Spence fight Danny Garcia, Porter, Berto, and all them other welterweights under PBC.
        Now nothing wrong with Spence fighting some of them fighters cause some of the welterweights you mentioned are pretty good but why the fucc would you want Spence fighting a Danny Garcia instead of Terrence Crawford??
        Spence and Crawford are the two Best welterweights in the world so why wouldn't you wanna see Spence-Crawford???
        What you said is the same thing Spence said!
        He said Crawford is on the wrong side of the street and that's why Crawford won't be fighting any PBC fighters.... That's fuccing pathetic!
        I don't give a flying fucc what side of the street a fighter is on, I just wanna see the two best fighters at welterweight fight each other! And that's Spence and Crawford!
        But when you have fighter's themselves making up bullshet excuses like that as to the reason why he won't fight a certain fighter and when you have nuttrider fan's like you supporting a certain fighter in avoiding another fighter cause he's supposedly on the wrong side of the street then it gives boxing, the fighter's themselves and the nuttrider fan's like you a bad name!
        Spence shouldn't give a fucc what side of the street another fighter is on!
        His job is to fight the best fighters out there regardless of who they are signed too in order to prove he's the best welterweight in the world! Crawford being signed to Top Rank instead of PBC isn't affecting his pockets in any way so why the fucc does Spence or you care who Crawford is signed too?????
        Terence Crawford lost the ability to speak for himself and Bob Arum has already gone on record with his ask for 50/50 on everything (including the US broadcaster; rich when you also see the BS he's doing with Wilder-Fury 2.

        Crawford secured the bag for him and his family, but everyone knows what the deal is.

        He's stuck, fighting whomever Bob can get good terms form himself on, and can't say **** about it.

        Errol Spence Jr isn't going to fight on ESPN (even less likely on a 50/50 with Arum having final say on anything), and Bob Arum isn't going to willingly send any fighter anywhere, so we're at an impasse.

        Hope Crawford has fun

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        • hitking
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          #64
          Originally posted by millcitymauler
          I’ve been a Spence fan from the beginning, but it’s becoming obvious that he’s morphing into a product of this Floyd/post-Floyd era, where making the most money by taking the least risk is the accepted formula. Kinda weird it’s come to this, cus out of all the newcomers in the past few years, Spence seemed like the real throwback-type fighter.
          In Floyd’s defense, he’s a five division world champion. Four of which were lineal titles. And the only division he didn’t win the lineal title(140), he beat the reigning lineal champion Ricky Hatton. Albeit in a welterweight fight. So Floyd did his share of moving up seeking out new challenges. We as fans just chose not to acknowledge it.

          And that’s my only frustration with Spence. I’ve been a fight fan a long time and understand that politics are stopping the fight we most wanna see Spence in, which is Crawford. And he can’t make Thurman fight him. Keith has shown he clearly wants no part of Errol. But if Spence is willing to fight a lightweight in Mikey, he should be just as willing to move up and fight bigger guys like Hurd, or even try his luck at middleweight. You can’t be willing to fight smaller guys, but want no part of bigger guys. It’s a bad look.

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          • BigStomps
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            #65
            Originally posted by Scipio2009
            Terence Crawford lost the ability to speak for himself and Bob Arum has already gone on record with his ask for 50/50 on everything (including the US broadcaster; rich when you also see the BS he's doing with Wilder-Fury 2.

            Crawford secured the bag for him and his family, but everyone knows what the deal is.

            He's stuck, fighting whomever Bob can get good terms form himself on, and can't say **** about it.

            Errol Spence Jr isn't going to fight on ESPN (even less likely on a 50/50 with Arum having final say on anything), and Bob Arum isn't going to willingly send any fighter anywhere, so we're at an impasse.

            Hope Crawford has fun
            What are you a boxing fan or a network groupie???
            I don't give a flying fucc what network they fight in and you shouldn't either!
            Tell me this! Have you ever heard Spence call out Crawford???
            I was reading an article today that Arum is ready to make a deal for Crawford-Spence if they both win their upcoming fights.
            Let's hope Arum and Haymon can come to an agreement and we can have two great fights between Top Rank and PBC.
            Wilder-Fury can fight on ESPN and Crawford-Spence can fight on Showtime/Fox or vice versa... I don't really give a flying fucc! But that seems like a fair deal to me!
            Hopefully we'll know soon enough who's the one actually preventing the fights...

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              #66
              Originally posted by millcitymauler
              I’ve been a Spence fan from the beginning, but it’s becoming obvious that he’s morphing into a product of this Floyd/post-Floyd era, where making the most money by taking the least risk is the accepted formula. Kinda weird it’s come to this, cus out of all the newcomers in the past few years, Spence seemed like the real throwback-type fighter.
              I dont even get the logic of where you coming from, Spence didnt call out Mikey ! it was Mikey throwing Spences name all over the place,,,,, And Spence is supposed to say NO go away Mikey, he would have been crucified by haters for ducking a LW.

              The next thing is the same as the first he didnt call out the smaller guy, he answered him. He has said he will go to MW eventually and I think he will, there aint no ducking and weaving from these guys, they have a whole range of technical BS derailing lots of fights, its a big wrong to blame the fighters.

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              • Scipio2009
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                #67
                Originally posted by BigStomps
                What are you a boxing fan or a network groupie???
                I don't give a flying fucc what network they fight in and you shouldn't either!
                Tell me this! Have you ever heard Spence call out Crawford???
                I was reading an article today that Arum is ready to make a deal for Crawford-Spence if they both win their upcoming fights.
                Let's hope Arum and Haymon can come to an agreement and we can have two great fights between Top Rank and PBC.
                Wilder-Fury can fight on ESPN and Crawford-Spence can fight on Showtime/Fox or vice versa... I don't really give a flying fucc! But that seems like a fair deal to me!
                Hopefully we'll know soon enough who's the one actually preventing the fights...
                I'm a fight fan, but I'm not ******. Have been a diehard fan for as long as I can remember; earliest vivid fight memory was, I believe, Nelson-Leija 2.

                "Calling out Crawford" isn't going to mean **** because Crawford doesn't speak for himself and we've already got 20 years of seeing how Bob Arum runs his business.

                Arum doesn't do business on "fair deals", and you should know that by now.

                Rather than waste my time with fantasy, I'd rather get excited for the interesting fights that are actually likely to happen; Spence-Mikey, Spence-Ugas or Spence-Porter, Spence-Thurman or Pacquiao-Spence, Spence-Danny, Spence-Prograis, and even Crawford-Ramirez.

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                • BigStomps
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Scipio2009
                  I'm a fight fan, but I'm not ******. Have been a diehard fan for as long as I can remember; earliest vivid fight memory was, I believe, Nelson-Leija 2.

                  "Calling out Crawford" isn't going to mean **** because Crawford doesn't speak for himself and we've already got 20 years of seeing how Bob Arum runs his business.

                  Arum doesn't do business on "fair deals", and you should know that by now.

                  Rather than waste my time with fantasy, I'd rather get excited for the interesting fights that are actually likely to happen; Spence-Mikey, Spence-Ugas or Spence-Porter, Spence-Thurman or Pacquiao-Spence, Spence-Danny, Spence-Prograis, and even Crawford-Ramirez.
                  Well more power to you! But let's not act like Al Haymon wasn't trying to run Bob Arum out of business at one time and refused to do any business with Arum....
                  I'm sure you Al Haymon groupies know that but as usual you have selective memory,...

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                  • marvin douglas
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Scipio2009
                    Terence Crawford lost the ability to speak for himself and Bob Arum has already gone on record with his ask for 50/50 on everything (including the US broadcaster; rich when you also see the BS he's doing with Wilder-Fury 2.

                    Crawford secured the bag for him and his family, but everyone knows what the deal is.

                    He's stuck, fighting whomever Bob can get good terms form himself on, and can't say **** about it.

                    Errol Spence Jr isn't going to fight on ESPN (even less likely on a 50/50 with Arum having final say on anything), and Bob Arum isn't going to willingly send any fighter anywhere, so we're at an impasse.

                    Hope Crawford has fun
                    I've been saying for a while that Arum ruined crawfish's career. He's headlining with Khan? Good job, bobby

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                    • Jsmooth9876
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Mister Wolf
                      He wont fight Spence just like he wouldn't fight Crawford. I don't blame him he is old and needs to retire. Thurman or Danny next bank on it.
                      He would have fought Crawford for that 20 million paycheck.

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