Mancini: "Mayweather Is Top 30-40 All Time... Hearns Would Have Stretched Him"

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  • Thraxox
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    #71
    Originally posted by sicko
    Legends know more about boxing than I do so why would I get upset with Boom Boom Mancini's Opinion

    YES Mayweather is a ALL TIME GREAT, is he the Greatest? Absolutely NOT! Is he even in the Conversation for Greatest? NO! Mayweather made it very clear that "Legacy Doesn't Pay Bills" which is very true. Just don't comeback years later trying to put yourself in the Conversation for G.O.A.T.

    TBE=The Best Earner
    Is really what he is, he is the G.O.A.T. hands down when it comes to earnings, Ticket/Gate Sales, PPV Buys none of his records will be broken EVER especially with the Streaming and APPS stuff happening now. Also will give him "Greatest Defensive Fighter Ever" won't deny him that. His ERA just wasn't Good Enough or Challenging Enough to be in "GOAT Conversation" and I put him around 30-50 Range All Time as well

    Fight Fans today especially the much young fight fans live in the moment. It is kinda funny how the younger fight fans have Google and Youtube and yet they STILL don't know nothing do the research before you label someone "The Greatest"

    Boxing has one of the richest Histories of ALL SPORTS! Being Considered "GREAT" in not suppose to come EASY to these fighters. It Takes Years and even DECADES Of domination, not a good 4-5 years knockout out WEAK OPPONENTS!
    You underestimate too much on the last "era" as if, it wasn't riddled with upper echelon greats such as Marquez, Barrera, Pacquiao, Mayweather, and good fighters such as Casamayor, Corrales, Margarito, Cotto.

    Floyd Mayweather went undefeated in 5 divisions and 4 lineal titles, and fought the likes of Mosley, Corrales, Castillo, Pacquiao etc. etc. The only problem I have with Floyd is his resume which lacks a prime HoF, but you can't deny that Floyd did much better than most across the last 25 - 50 years.

    Floyd should be ATLEAST top 20, and I have him personally at top 14, with Pacquiao 13. Both him and Pacquiao made history, that none in any era did, but so called "boxing fans" only likes to put them at 30+

    What went wrong with Floyd's 5 weight division world champion climb, 4 lineal title grabs, and retiring 49-0 (I dont count McGregor)

    What went wrong with Manny's 8 weight division climb, 5 lineal grab and retiring with 60+ wins?

    Is the standard of these two that high that we don't give them the proper due? Or are we just gonna be just blind to the facts that only nostalgia of older fighters are keeping these two from their just due?

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    • Thraxox
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      #72
      Originally posted by Real King Kong
      It was the right decision to create an alt to say maidana has a similar style to Duran.
      Idk why people would have to create an alt to agree with themselves when they could just man up and say they disagree to the guy they are arguing.

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      • _Rexy_
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        #73
        Originally posted by Thraxox
        Idk why people would have to create an alt to agree with themselves when they could just man up and say they disagree to the guy they are arguing.
        Especially with everyone being anonymous on here haha

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        • A-Wolf
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          #74
          Yo Dosumpthin, why is Floyd top 5?

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            #75
            I’m still waiting on someone to explain to me how SRL and Hearns making 147 on fight night are still much bigger than Floyd who got a day to hydrate after making weight.

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              #76
              i cant see any way at all mayweather beats hearns ? no chance at all , hearns has all the tools to dominate him easy his reach and speed plus power would be way to much and mayweathers not going to chase him down and fight inside in hearns heavy artillary as leonard and hagler had to do, he sure as hells not outboxing the motor city cobra nobody ever outboxed him.

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                #77
                Originally posted by A-Wolf
                Yeah? Explain in tactical terms why Floyd wins.
                Watch the benitez fight. He took duran to school and caused him issues with his counter punching defensive style. Mayweather is all wrong for duran.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by _Rexy_
                  he was taller, yes. But when Hearns was fighting at 147 you can't say he was a BIGGER man than Mayweather when he was fighting at 147.

                  Especially since Floyd got to hydrate, and Hearns didn't.


                  They still rehydrated, just that morning instead of the day before.

                  Floyd didnt "get to" and Hearns didnt.

                  Floyd also never weighed over 151 from what we know. AND that was for his fights from 154.

                  Hearns is much larger than Floyd. You have to be ******ed to say otherwise.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by el***
                    They still rehydrated, just that morning instead of the day before.

                    Floyd didnt "get to" and Hearns didnt.

                    Floyd also never weighed over 151 from what we know. AND that was for his fights from 154.

                    Hearns is much larger than Floyd. You have to be ******ed to say otherwise.
                    Yes, Hearns is taller than Floyd, but 147 day of the fight with morning hydration, or 147 day before with 38 hours hydration...sure Floyd hydrated up to 152 but once again, Hearns and Leonard weighed in on fight day.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by A-Wolf
                      We'll have to agree to disagree. Hearns and Leonard were in no way "too big" for Floyd. Sorry man but this is an incredibly weak argument.

                      They aren't "too big", we are talking p4p greatness. If hearns or SRL beats floyd at 147, that does not mean they are p4p better because floyd is naturally smaller.

                      A ton of people have duran rated p4p higher hearns even though hearns stopped him.


                      Also for those still denying the size difference to suit their agenda:

                      Olympics weight classes:

                      Floyd - Featherweight 57kg/126 lbs.
                      SRL - Light welterweigt - 63.5 kg (140lbs)

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