When someone beats Ortiz it'll be the same as this stiverne win

[Earl-Hickey]

All the Wilder turds will say Ortiz is an old bum even though he was supposedly a good win for Wilder.

This is why it's pointless fighting Ortiz

[Froch_uppercut]

All the Wilder turds will say Ortiz is an old bum even though he was supposedly a good win for Wilder.

This is why it's pointless fighting Ortiz

This.

You'll also hear that "Wilder 'broke' him so now it's easy work for the others."

Wilder is a shameless liar.

[Mammoth]

yesterday's version of Stiverne might have been the worst version yet buy it still took Joyce 7 rounds

[SN!PER]

A boxer is only as good as his last fight.

Next up for Ortiz is Christian Hammer on March 2nd.

This will tell us what we need to know about the state of King Kong Ortiz.

[DaNeutral.]

yesterday's version of Stiverne might have been the worst version yet buy it still took Joyce 7 rounds

Yeah, in his 8th pro fight. Took Deontay 13 rounds and he had had 4 x as many fights.

[Mammoth]

Yeah, in his 8th pro fight. Took Deontay 13 rounds and he had had 4 x as many fights.

Against a better version of Stiverne. Nobody is saying Wilder isn't a **** fighter.

[DaNeutral.]

Against a better version of Stiverne. Nobody is saying Wilder isn't a **** fighter.

How convenient. Though i think youve just proved the point of the thread starter.

[Mammoth]

How convenient. Though i think youve just proved the point of the thread starter.

Well, Ortiz is old and he will get older. Time is not on his side so maybe the version of him that gets beat in the future won't be as good?

Who beat the better Razor Ruddock, Tyson or Dillon Carman?

[Mammoth]

Ustinov had a great win over Tua too I guess

[REDEEMER]

All the Wilder turds will say Ortiz is an old bum even though he was supposedly a good win for Wilder.

This is why it's pointless fighting Ortiz

Agreed. It would be a even fight though until mid point. Joyce is all wrong for Ortiz , I don't see Ortiz maintaining Joyce's pace for more than 8 rounds.