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  • Originally posted by P4Pdunny View Post
    I know what he's saying but the ref needs to give the fighter every chance of getting up, he did that and we saw what happened. For me though, I wouldn't call any of these guys better than the other until they've all squared off.
    Refs have to make tough judgement calls in those circumstances. There is no right or wrong. Just the result. I think that's what's wrong with so many people...they want everything to be binary so they can choose a side and claim to be right.

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    • Originally posted by Bad Bart View Post
      Jesus, this comment section is a disaster. Holyfield states his opinion and a bunch of online tough guys go apoplectic trying to discredit the man, as if they know boxing better than a former champion. It's not unreasonable to feel that way, it's the level disrespect merely because of disagreement that is completely out of place. Get a ****ing grip weirdos, you're making this site unbearable.
      It's not about disagreeing it's about pointing out how ****** one is which Holyfield is doing here because he's saying Fury was knocked out when we can all see see he had his eyes open talking to the referee to be sure what the count was.

      Is that someone who's knocked out does ?

      It doesn't matter who it is they're an idiot to make that claim that a referee usually waves it off this guy must be forgot some fights he was in that actually could have been waved off that he won ? Lol

      He's merely trying to justify his pick again and with a fellow Alabama resident! Nothing but killing his own credibility like Lewis no matter who they think is the best .Holyfields justification of putting Wilder at number 1 is a K.O which never happened.

      Anyone who actually knows boxing knows it's Joshua, the very least Fury!
      Last edited by juggernaut666; 02-24-2019, 04:56 PM.

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      • Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
        It's not about disagreeing it's about pointing out how ****** one is which Holyfield is doing here because he's saying Fury was knocked out when we can all see see he had his eyes open talking to the referee to be sure what the count was.

        Is that someone who's knocked out does ?

        It doesn't matter who it is they're an idiot to make that claim that a referee usually waves it off this guy must be forgot some fights he was in that actually could have been waved off that he won ? Lol

        He's merely trying to justify his pick again and with a fellow Alabama resident! Nothing but killing his own credibility like Lewis no matter who they think is the best .Holyfields justification of putting Wilder at number 1 is a K.O which never happened.

        Anyone who actually knows boxing knows it's Joshua, the very least Fury!
        Thank you for my proving my point.

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        • Holyfield knows Fury is the greatest HW to ever do it, he just doesn't want to call a spade a spade.

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          • Originally posted by !! Anorak View Post
            Fuck me, these Windmillers.

            Wilder has had forty - FORTY - fights. And only three of them (correct me if I'm wrong) featured a boxer ranked in the top ten. That's 37 fights that featured cans.

            This is not some guy who takes on all-comers, he fought an aged Ortiz (and got hurt) and then took on Fury after nearly a three-year layoff. Fury clearly wasn't 100%, but he STILL got lucky to keep his belt.

            As Shakespeare said, two fights against people with a pulse does not a summer make. The guy's been a pro for a DECADE. But now all of a sudden - because of the last eleven months - he's suddenly Mr. Excitement, prepared to take on the best?.
            You sound really dumb bro. Wilder, just like damn near every fighter back in the day, fought 6+ times a year his first couple years as a prospect. Everybody fights no hopers as a prospect. Wilder was just more active as a prospect than most fighters nowadays. And since winning his fight against Stiverne for his belt. Pretty much everybody Wilder has fought could be catagorized as a contender or fringe contender.

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            • Yeah he looked really sharp in his last fight getting schooled by someone who lost 10 stone and had just fought the world number 120 as preparation

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              • Originally posted by !! Anorak View Post
                Fuck me, these Windmillers.

                Wilder has had forty - FORTY - fights. And only three of them (correct me if I'm wrong) featured a boxer ranked in the top ten. That's 37 fights that featured cans.

                This is not some guy who takes on all-comers, he fought an aged Ortiz (and got hurt) and then took on Fury after nearly a three-year layoff. Fury clearly wasn't 100%, but he STILL got lucky to keep his belt.

                As Shakespeare said, two fights against people with a pulse does not a summer make. The guy's been a pro for a DECADE. But now all of a sudden - because of the last eleven months - he's suddenly Mr. Excitement, prepared to take on the best?




                This is the guy who sold out his upcoming fight in just a few hours and regularly does 70,000+ stadiums, you know that, right?

                I love the way the UK is a "comfort zone", when the guy's doing 90,000 stadiums and a million PPV over there.

                The old "they have to come to the States" doesn't work in the current heavyweight climate.




                The guy who most people in America don't even know, who can't sell out 17,000 seat stadiums? Canny old Tyson, to think of that.






                Fuck me.

                Do you comprehend what "has had" means? Yes, Miller is a crappy (albeit fairly legitimate, as he's ranked 9th by the ring) opponent, but I can take that as a promotional tool.

                I don't have a particular "dog" in this race, btw, it's just that I'm hearing a distorted narrative whereby every day in NSB a guy who just got a gift draw and has fought cans in front of small crowds is suddenly some all-conquering high flyer who's got people running scared with $50 billion trillion squillion offer that apparently was real.
                Very good comment ^

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                • Originally posted by earl-hickey View Post
                  Wilder is a smelly little turd
                  now record a VIDEO of you walkin' up to Deontay Wilder and stating this very same sentiment to him in PHYSICAL FORM

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                  • birdlegs was clearly beaten by the Gypsy King on 12-2-18

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                    • Originally posted by Brooklyn926 View Post
                      If you want to talk about counts, this fight would never have taking place monkey cause wilder would’ve been stopped by Ortiz. Another crying be-och gotta be put in check
                      Who you callin' a monkey! lol Wilder never had to receive a count versus Ortiz because he was never knocked down.

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