Canelo vs Kovalev catch like Dawson vs Ward?

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  • boliodogs
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    #11
    I think that fight could go either way. I think Canelo is better, faster and hits harder than Ward so sue me. Kovalev looked very good last time out and he has a good weight and reach advantage and his famous punching power and left jab. Canelo improves with every fight and he is a great LEGAL body puncher.Canelo has very fast hands. He has faster hands than anyone Kovalev ever fought. Canelo has the power in both hands to hurt or KO Kovalev and Kovalev could hurt or KO Canelo.

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      #12
      Originally posted by boliodogs
      I think that fight could go either way. I think Canelo is better, faster and hits harder than Ward so sue me. Kovalev looked very good last time out and he has a good weight and reach advantage and his famous punching power and left jab. Canelo improves with every fight and he is a great LEGAL body puncher.Canelo has very fast hands. He has faster hands than anyone Kovalev ever fought. Canelo has the power in both hands to hurt or KO Kovalev and Kovalev could hurt or KO Canelo.
      I agree to an extent. Everything you say is correct but it would need to be at 168. I think Canelo has enough power to plant and counter on the inside against Kovalev, but he has to be careful. Kova is very heavy handed and a tactician with precision.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Frankie2Jabs
        I agree to an extent. Everything you say is correct but it would need to be at 168. I think Canelo has enough power to plant and counter on the inside against Kovalev, but he has to be careful. Kova is very heavy handed and a tactician with precision.
        I thought you meant a fight at 175 and based my answer on that. I don't think Kovalev can make 168 and be right and I don't think he would agree to such a fight although maybe he would for the big money. At 168 I think Canelo would win. Bivol is a terrific fighter who says making 168 is no problem at all. I think Bivol beats everyone at 168 and 175 including Canelo.

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          #14
          Originally posted by boliodogs
          I thought you meant a fight at 175 and based my answer on that. I don't think Kovalev can make 168 and be right and I don't think he would agree to such a fight although maybe he would for the big money. At 168 I think Canelo would win. Bivol is a terrific fighter who says making 168 is no problem at all. I think Bivol beats everyone at 168 and 175 including Canelo.
          Yeah I looked at the Kova Eleider weigh ins and Sergey eyes are a bit seeped in, so he would be very deprived at 168. What about 170? Duva could convince Sergey that the bag is worth it. It’s all part of the game. Look at chino now. I think Maidana at 147 is not a good idea, but if he does, then PBC is taking advantage of that situation.

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            #15
            A fight with Canelo/Kovalev at 168 ends with Kovalev passing out before the weigh in.

            Kovalev/Canelo at 175 and Canelo gets belted lol. You think Kovalev is rocky fielding ? It’d be an absolute mismatch. Best he keep his eyes on Jacobs, that dude is no gimme fight

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              #16
              Originally posted by kingstip9
              A fight with Canelo/Kovalev at 168 ends with Kovalev passing out before the weigh in.

              Kovalev/Canelo at 175 and Canelo gets belted lol. You think Kovalev is rocky fielding ? It’d be an absolute mismatch. Best he keep his eyes on Jacobs, that dude is no gimme fight
              Sergey is 36 in April. Canelo is 28. The age difference matters. A catch is more suitable, we know Ward Dawson was 168. I say 171lb should be fair. If Kovalev would agree, his fans would have to acknowledge a catch.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Frankie2Jabs
                Sergey is 36 in April. Canelo is 28. The age difference matters. A catch is more suitable, we know Ward Dawson was 168. I say 171lb should be fair. If Kovalev would agree, his fans would have to acknowledge a catch.
                Haha nope. If the only way someone can win a fight is to severely handicap them by draining them, then you don’t get any credit from me. If Canelo can’t meet him at light heavy weight (which he never will) then I don’t care for the fight. Kovalev struggles enough to make light heavy let alone 171lbs.

                Let’s see how Canelo goes against Jacobs before he jumps two divisions to take on Kovalev. Which would be complete suicide and something his handlers would never have happen, and rightly so

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by kingstip9
                  Haha nope. If the only way someone can win a fight is to severely handicap them by draining them, then you don’t get any credit from me. If Canelo can’t meet him at light heavy weight (which he never will) then I don’t care for the fight. Kovalev struggles enough to make light heavy let alone 171lbs.

                  Let’s see how Canelo goes against Jacobs before he jumps two divisions to take on Kovalev. Which would be complete suicide and something his handlers would never have happen, and rightly so
                  I agree Sergey already looking thin at the weigh ins, but do you think Sergey would take the bag for a catchweight fight?

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Frankie2Jabs
                    I agree Sergey already looking thin at the weigh ins, but do you think Sergey would take the bag for a catchweight fight?
                    I think he would give it a go for the reward. But it’d be a risky move, I could see him being completely shattered at the weight like Dawson was against ward.. probably even worst

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                      I think it'd be unlikely to happen. First despite the last fight I think Kov is on the decline & there are some quality opponents who could end his reign as easily as the other Alvarez did the first time around. Secondly I think Canelo would 100% employ a catchweight that its unlikely Kov would agree to or could make for fight night.

                      But yea if there is some 170lb catchweight that Kov can make, even at reduced strength, I don't hate Canelo's chances at collecting a third belt at all in this fight.

                      Hadn't thought much about Canelo fighting above 160 even after the Fielding fight, but yea considering it more seriously I could see Canelo catching big name wins above 160 in the right situations. And being the money guy he can persuade people into a right situation type of fight.

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