Comments Thread For: Fury's Dubious Decision & Why Wilder Won't Accept Arum's Offer

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  • MDPopescu
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    #61
    Originally posted by BattlingNelson
    Interesting that I, as a mod of this site, am actually employed by CBS!!!!
    ... at least you admit that you are employed...

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    • REDEEMER
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      #62
      Originally posted by P4P Forever
      There you go again.
      Well at least you can see your own lunacy. Aren't you tired that posters telling you you don't know what you're talking about ? I think it's time for the ignore button here.....ha.

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        #63
        Originally posted by leeroy84
        I favour Breazeale too buddy

        I'm just not convinced he'll get his shot first (he should though)

        Kownacki has now jumped up the WBC rankings I see....
        I hear it's a May 18th fight? Wilder fears power puncher with jabs .

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        • Scopedog
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          #64
          Extremely disappointing if true, leave it to a snake like Bob to dive in the middle of what was looking to be an exciting heavyweight scenario and ruin it with the aim of poaching a rival's fighter. Fury's definitely squandered some of the respect he's earned as well, by enabling Arum to do this after months spent smacktalking Hearn. At least Hearn was just greedy and difficult instead of being duplicitous and backhanded like this. The worst part is that as the article states, his plan is probably going to fail, robbing the fans of another highly anticipated fight. If anything Joshua-Wilder looks more probably now. Wilder can't seem to catch a break with opponents jerking him around, whether it's promoter BS like this or opponents failing drugs tests.

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          • DougalDylan
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            #65
            They're online you can either use the actual purse split (had to be published) or the estimate post ppv varies between 30-40% to fury depending on which way you spin the figures.

            or take Frank Warrens word for it (he's hilarious)

            Warren claimed that a "50-50" purse split was agreed between the fighters after "quick and smooth negotiations."

            which was proved completely untrue on both accounts

            Originally posted by Mikedadon
            I wonder what the original purse split for wilder and fury was in the first fight. I don't think its on record.

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              #66
              Originally posted by Jax teller
              I don't care about whether the Redeemer has an agenda or not, I'm just pointing out AJ never avoided Ortiz, it's not a plausable narrative, he has not had the chance for "that work".

              Regards to the meds, WBC reinstated him so he could fight Wilder and he CHOSE not to go through the processes required to get reinstated by the WBA for an AJ clash.

              Ortiz has Hammer next and when was AJ supposed to fight Ortiz before that? Should he have not unified with Parker to get the WBO or should he have not fought Takam or Povetkin and vacated one of his belts just to give Ortiz a free handout? Why is it down to AJ to clear out the whole division surely Wilder should face top competition as well?

              It's frankly rediculous to say AJ has been avoiding Ortiz since he has been unifying or fighting mando's since his 18th fight.

              Also he is saying Ortiz can get it next if Wilder don't want it.
              I'm not arguing with everything your saying nor do I agree with everything. You know as well as anyone Just cuz AJ says something doesn't make it fact or even mean hes being sincere, if that's what he's saying? Haven't heard him say that. Time will tell. I'd be happily surprised if that fight come off before Ortiz is 42 yo. I saw what he told Whyte after he KO Chisora. Not a good look. In short Id like to see AJ fight better fights then Miller. Wilder faced 2 of the 3 top fighter available in his last fights both undefended at the time. Seemed set on a rematch with fury as well. Can't blame him if that fight doesn't come off can you? So not understanding your point about Wilder needing to taking tuff fights.

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                #67
                So if Wilder doesn't sign the ESPN deal then Fury has just put himself into no mans lands, stuck in a deal where he won't be able to agree deals with Wilder or Joshua.

                ESPN getting involved just delivers the fans more meaningless fights while they try to gain subscribers to their digital platform and build up to a fight that requires no building up as we were due to get it next.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Scopedog
                  Extremely disappointing if true, leave it to a snake like Bob to dive in the middle of what was looking to be an exciting heavyweight scenario and ruin it with the aim of poaching a rival's fighter. Fury's definitely squandered some of the respect he's earned as well, by enabling Arum to do this after months spent smacktalking Hearn. At least Hearn was just greedy and difficult instead of being duplicitous and backhanded like this. The worst part is that as the article states, his plan is probably going to fail, robbing the fans of another highly anticipated fight. If anything Joshua-Wilder looks more probably now. Wilder can't seem to catch a break with opponents jerking him around, whether it's promoter BS like this or opponents failing drugs tests.

                  Wilder jerked himself around by losing his pen .He also cut a break with Fury giving him his PPV without it he would have fought Breazeale for 2 million and got knocked out as a possibility. Poor Wilder played himself mocking AJ playing the A side with talks of freezing him out. He's lucky I'm not Hearn because I would give Fury 50% and freeze him out with 3 fight deal .Ha

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by REDEEMER
                    Well how is Wilder tied to 5 fights under arum? Your post was nothing but gibberish with a sentence stating Fury is the number 3 Heavyweight now because he disappointed you for signing top rank and that's official? What is the purpose trolling on the forum as a Fury can anyway, isn't that a waste of life,how old are you to pretend just to big up Wilder ? Never seen a mental case like you besides that WBC guy. Ha
                    Did you read the article or just saw the headline and just decided to type ?
                    I’m taking a guess and saying just the headline

                    It’s crazy but the headlines comes with a attached article and in it was reported Top Ranks offer to Wilder was for 5 fights on Espn or Espn + with a fury fight somewhere in there but it wouldn’t be first and no guarantee of it being the second.

                    Even if you believe Fury beat Wilder and was now clearly the #2 HW. Running away from a rematch that was 50/50 against the #3 whos besides himself is considered the only active top tier HW besides AJ , and a chance to actually get the WBC strap and leave no doubt that a draw in the first fight was BS but to instead align with TR and most likely fighting mostly 2nd and 3rd tier no name HWs isn’t a good look ,’Big contract or not it’s clear Fury didn’t want the rematch and shouldn’t be viewed as #2 when you had a chance but ran away from#3’. Their position has to switch. You can you justify and reward that move and still have him -#2 .surely You can’t reward such a move can you. In what world should Fury still be considered #2 for avoiding the rematch which was officially a draw. No matter what your opinion is Wilder walked in and out the ring with his strap and wanted a rematch and Fury swerved that’s not the actions of
                    The #2.’can give a reason why he shouldn’t be 3

                    That’s the differnce between me and you. I’ll give you reasons Why I wrote what i wrote

                    You seem to write off emoton and and
                    Whos views are often flat out wrong and you can’t even provide a explanation why you believe what you typed

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                    • P4P Forever
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by REDEEMER
                      Well at least you can see your own lunacy. Aren't you tired that posters telling you you don't know what you're talking about ? I think it's time for the ignore button here.....ha.
                      What a man, go hide from the truth. The truth hurts so bad you have to ignore it.

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