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  • Ake-Dawg
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    #41
    Originally posted by BillyBoxing
    Spence is a typical pbc fighter, like the Charlos, wilder, faces of boxing, yet no resume.

    I disagree with Spence mix of skills ect... I think he's a strong but straight, stiff fighter, he's not slick at all, not

    He's hard nosed, big for the weight, strong, left handed, relentless.
    Tough style to beat, they sure (Thurman, porter) prefere to fight lil Danny Garcia.

    Pbc does a great job at hyping, marketing American fighters as the next big thing, but at some point they will have to take risks.

    I think bud boxes Errol's ears off.
    Isn't that what EVERY promotion does with their fighters with above average talent.

    As for Spence vs Crawford, I see it as a drawish fight and it depends on which fighter is on. Crawford won't box Spence ears off because if necessary Spence will put on earmuffs and look to launch a body attack.

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      #42
      Originally posted by .WesternChamp.
      it wasnt re-injured in the spence fight but that doesnt mean that it wont in another future fight. those type of injury is career ending type. it will swell back up, might not be in this fight, but the next, etc. if im betting money, i wouldnt feel 100% to put money on someone with an injury like that knowing it can get re-injured.
      As I said, I agree with you. The discussion was relative to the value of Spences win over Brook. I said in context it shouldn't be devalued because it was 8 months after the GGG fight and the injuries Brook suffered in the GGG fight had no bearing on the outcome.

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      • BillyBoxing
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        #43
        Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
        Lose all the weight? Did he blow up to 180 then drain to 160. I'm not saying getting to 147 was easy for him. Not saying he was at his best, or that beating him makes Spence an ATG. I'm saying that it was a good win by Spence and the weight and orbital injury were not major factors in HOW Spence beat him.
        Ok fair enough, Spence is the better fighter anyway but let's not act like brook was 100%

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        • BillyBoxing
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          #44
          Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
          Isn't that what EVERY promotion does with their fighters with above average talent.

          As for Spence vs Crawford, I see it as a drawish fight and it depends on which fighter is on. Crawford won't box Spence ears off because if necessary Spence will put on earmuffs and look to launch a body attack.
          Not that much, look arum with Manny, Loma, bud, he matched them harshly and through different divisions.
          Even if this og bastard keep it too much in house.

          Man, bud is slick, fundamentally sound and, walking down bud plays into his hands, Errol is effed up, he's too hittable if you ask me.

          Bud's eyes see all.

          He gonna end up ear muffing ala Broner.

          Bud can crack, slowly growing into 147, not a good look.

          Loma, bud are different breeds, 3 div's champ, let's see if Errol can do at 160 what loma and bud are doing at 135 and 147.

          Yeah that's right we far from it.

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            #45
            Originally posted by BillyBoxing
            Ok fair enough, Spence is the better fighter anyway but let's not act like brook was 100%
            now of course but pre ggg brook would have beaten spence and done it easily. brook gave spence plenty of trouble in that fight. the ggg beating took something out of him and also brook was having trouble making it back down to 147lbs so that weakened him even more. brook killed his career by fighting golovkin. mikey garcia is now following in his footsteps lol these guys are desperate for that one big payday.

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              #46
              Originally posted by BillyBoxing
              Not that much, look arum with Manny, Loma, bud, he matched them harshly and through different divisions.
              Even if this og bastard keep it too much in house.

              Man, bud is slick, fundamentally sound and, walking down bud plays into his hands, Errol is effed up, he's too hittable if you ask me.

              Bud's eyes see all.

              He gonna end up ear muffing ala Broner.

              Bud can crack, slowly growing into 147, not a good look.

              Loma, bud are different breeds, 3 div's champ, let's see if Errol can do at 160 what loma and bud are doing at 135 and 147.

              Yeah that's right we far from it.
              Errol going to 160 has nothing to do with them fighting at 147. Bud is definitely the better boxer, but Spence has height and length to bother Bud. Watch the Benavidez fight to see how his length bothered Bud. Spence can be first and stay out of danger with a jab to the body. Not sure where the Spence is stuff talk comes from. He looked mighty fluid cutting off the ring and throwing counters on Bundu and Algerie.

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              • BillyBoxing
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                #47
                Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
                Errol going to 160 has nothing to do with them fighting at 147. Bud is definitely the better boxer, but Spence has height and length to bother Bud. Watch the Benavidez fight to see how his length bothered Bud. Spence can be first and stay out of danger with a jab to the body. Not sure where the Spence is stuff talk comes from. He looked mighty fluid cutting off the ring and throwing counters on Bundu and Algerie.
                Yeah, bundu and algieris.... tune up quality fights.

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                • JWHardin
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by BillyBoxing
                  Spence is a typical pbc fighter, like the Charlos, wilder, faces of boxing, yet no resume.

                  I disagree with Spence mix of skills ect... I think he's a strong but straight, stiff fighter, he's not slick at all, not

                  He's hard nosed, big for the weight, strong, left handed, relentless.
                  Tough style to beat, they sure (Thurman, porter) prefere to fight lil Danny Garcia.

                  Pbc does a great job at hyping, marketing American fighters as the next big thing, but at some point they will have to take risks.

                  I think bud boxes Errol's ears off.
                  Bud very well could, but would have to be on his bike for most of the fight. If Bud doesn't, I see him getting beat up by Errol. I'm a huge fan of both. One of the very few PPV's I will buy. Probably the biggest, most evenly matched fight by two tremendous boxers in my eyes for 30+ years. (Assuming both stay unbeaten)

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                  • JWHardin
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by SHOOTALLCLOWNS
                    now of course but pre ggg brook would have beaten spence and done it easily. brook gave spence plenty of trouble in that fight. the ggg beating took something out of him and also brook was having trouble making it back down to 147lbs so that weakened him even more. brook killed his career by fighting golovkin. mikey garcia is now following in his footsteps lol these guys are desperate for that one big payday.

                    Brook had more than one chance to fight Spence before GGG, and if he thought he could win easily, he would have fought him. Hearn warned him to stay away from Spence and move up. Hearn was caught in a lie (surprise) by saying they offered the fight to Spence but he turned it down.
                    There are no "easy" fights when the top guys collide. Casual fans look at results and say it was an easy fight, but more seasoned fans and boxers know different. Even Spence vs Garcia is not an "easy" fight for Spence.

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                    • BillyBoxing
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by JWHardin
                      Bud very well could, but would have to be on his bike for most of the fight. If Bud doesn't, I see him getting beat up by Errol. I'm a huge fan of both. One of the very few PPV's I will buy. Probably the biggest, most evenly matched fight by two tremendous boxers in my eyes for 30+ years. (Assuming both stay unbeaten)
                      They are not even the biggest fight in boxing right now.

                      Skills for skills, resume for resume, pedigree for pedigree, Loma Vs Garcia is/was way above.

                      GGG Vs nelo, usyk Vs Joshua are arguably bigger, better fights, sure with more pedigree.

                      What makes this such a big fight?
                      Except Spence's size?

                      Spence lost all his big events as an amateur, getting his ears boxed off by eastern euros, his amateur pedigree sux, he only fought soft meat as a pro and is only an alfabet titilist in one division at this point, he hasn't proved half the greatness y'all pretending.

                      I don't see Spence being a 3 div's champ like Loma, bud, let alone 4 div like Mikey.

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