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  • Originally posted by Boxing1013 View Post
    I mean the video doesn't lie does it...not even comparable
    Middleweights of this era are significantly bigger due to rehydration luxuries.

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    • Originally posted by j.razor View Post
      monzon AND Triple L both garbage.
      Who is your top 5 all time at MW?

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      • Originally posted by DreamFighter View Post
        theres no great win on his resume, but two good wins, jacobs and lemieux, possibly geale too. the rest is middle to crud. whats bias got to do with you not seeing that.


        because Monzon has great wins.

        and because calling GGG an ATG for haivng 4 title defences means you have to open the doors to 1000 other boxers.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhUGbzsx0S8

        Can you really watch that video and act as though Monzon could even compete with GGG? I mean come on dude...open your eyes....

        GGG clearly beat Canelo, twice really. And anyone neutral would give him at least 1 of those wins. Plus Jacobs and Lemieux. Murray was a much better win than Geale lol. Geale wasn't completely shot at that point but he was after GGG faced him. Watch Geale in the GGG fight and then vs Cotto. Completely different fighter.

        GGG has 17 good to great wins. All clean wins, 14 KOs. Never really lost. All different styles of fighers...big, small, fast, big punchers...as opposed to someone like Hagler who struggled every time you put someone who could box move and take a punch.

        Who is your top 5 all time at MW?

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        • Originally posted by Frankie2Jabs View Post
          Middleweights of this era are significantly bigger due to rehydration luxuries.
          Re-hydration luxuries? What do you mean? I guess you mean same day weigh-ins kept guys a bit closer to their own weight...but GGG is not really a weight bully, I don't he weighs much different on fight day than Monzon did when he fought. (as evidence I think GGG had to be under 170 for basically all of his fights on fight night when he had the IBF belt)

          Do you have any info for what fight night weight was for Monzon or other past MW fighters?
          Last edited by Boxing_1013; 02-19-2019, 09:54 PM.

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          • Originally posted by Boxing1013 View Post
            Re-hydration luxuries? What do you mean?
            Insecurities for cancellations of the fight, costing promoters and networks money, plus a disservice for boxers having trained hard for it. But Geale, Chavez Jr., Pavlik could do 20lbs more on 160lb fight night. GGG too would be 175-178 against Canelo, massive back.

            But as far as Monzon, he was 70’s. Even Hagler in his prime was before ‘83. The way boxers gain back the water weight today imo wouldn’t be of interest nor normal to Hagler from 84-85. He had nothing to prove, nor would he cut weight like a Crawford at 28 years of age walking around 160lbs but prepping camp for 135.

            Different times.

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            • Originally posted by DreamFighter View Post
              theres no great win on his resume, but two good wins, jacobs and lemieux, possibly geale too. the rest is middle to crud. whats bias got to do with you not seeing that.


              because Monzon has great wins.

              and because calling GGG an ATG for haivng 4 title defences means you have to open the doors to 1000 other boxers.
              Lol not to mention that GGG and Hopkins are clear 1 and 2 as far as consecutive title defenses go at MW...

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              • Originally posted by Frankie2Jabs View Post
                Insecurities for cancellations of the fight, costing promoters and networks money, plus a disservice for boxers having trained hard for it. But Geale, Chavez Jr., Pavlik could do 20lbs more on 160lb fight night. GGG too would be 175-178 against Canelo, massive back.

                But as far as Monzon, he was 70’s. Even Hagler in his prime was before ‘83. The way boxers gain back the water weight today imo wouldn’t be of interest nor normal to Hagler from 84-85. He had nothing to prove, nor would he cut weight like a Crawford at 28 years of age walking around 160lbs but prepping camp for 135.

                Different times.
                Do you have any supporting evidence of what Hagler or Monzon weighed on fight night? Or for GGG on fight night with Canelo?

                You said in a different post that MWs today are much bigger due to rehydration. GGG is not really a big MW, (I doubt he has ever been much over 170 on fight night) so if he indeed is beating bigger guys historically that is actually another feather in his cap, so thank you for pointing that out.

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                • "Waaaaahhhh triple g doesn't need to fight Charlo waaaaaaaahhhh he already proved himself waaaaahhhh 20 title defences doe waaaaahhhh triple g can fight whoever he wants waaaaahhhh"

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                  • Originally posted by Boxing1013 View Post
                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhUGbzsx0S8

                    Can you really watch that video and act as though Monzon could even compete with GGG? I mean come on dude...open your eyes....

                    GGG clearly beat Canelo, twice really. And anyone neutral would give him at least 1 of those wins. Plus Jacobs and Lemieux. Murray was a much better win than Geale lol. Geale wasn't completely shot at that point but he was after GGG faced him. Watch Geale in the GGG fight and then vs Cotto. Completely different fighter.

                    GGG has 17 good to great wins. All clean wins, 14 KOs. Never really lost. All different styles of fighers...big, small, fast, big punchers...as opposed to someone like Hagler who struggled every time you put someone who could box move and take a punch.

                    Who is your top 5 all time at MW?
                    Same day weigh-ins and rehydration with 36 hours are totally different

                    Nigel Benn definitely beats Triple L.

                    Canelo definitely beat Triple L in the rematch and he put a hurting on that boy.

                    That's why Triple L still ain't even talking or thinking about fighting. Dude is STILL Recovering

                    Meanwhile Ca$hnelo is fighting the #1 contender at MW after winning a title at SMW

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                    • Originally posted by Timothy Tait View Post
                      "Waaaaahhhh triple g doesn't need to fight Charlo waaaaaaaahhhh he already proved himself waaaaahhhh 20 title defences doe waaaaahhhh triple g can fight whoever he wants waaaaahhhh"
                      Standard Triple L fan XD XD XD :bukkake:
                      Last edited by Bjl12; 02-20-2019, 01:20 AM.

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