Wilder Fans? Why would Wilder fight better fighters than AJ for less money?

[Earl-Hickey]

According to you all, Fury and Ortiz are better than AJ

AJ offered him $15 million

He fought Ortiz for 3 million and fury for 7 million

So why doesn't he take on this easy AJ fight for a way bigger payday and 3 easy belt?

Why is that?

[boliodogs]

According to you all, Fury and Ortiz are better than AJ

AJ offered him $15 million

He fought Ortiz for 3 million and fury for 7 million

So why doesn't he take on this easy AJ fight for a way bigger payday and 3 easy belt?

Why is that?

I am not a Wilder fan but I haven't read of any Wilder fans saying old Ortiz is better than AJ. I am guessing Wilder didn't take the 15 million offer because he thinks AJ would make about 3 times that much and he wants a more even split. Considering AJ is making 25 million bucks for fighting Miller in the USA I think AJ might make about 45 million for fighting Wilder in England especially if Wilder gets 15million. I don't know the actual dollar numbers the two fights would make but AJ vs Wilder in England just seem like a much bigger money maker than AJ vs Miller in the USA.

[Granath]

The OPs question has been answered ad nauseam. It's not just what you get, it's what the other guy gets too. $15m is chump change when you believe the other guy will get $50M or $75M. Fairness is kind of like that. I could think a job is reasonable at $50k/yr but I'd be pretty damned unhappy if I started and realized that a guy at the same job was being paid $300k/yr. It also makes a difference when that fight is contingent upon a guaranteed rematch where even if you win and hold all the belts (and all the cards) you still won't make more than 50% of the pot. That's called a poison pill.

If Wilder is ducking AJ for $15M then AJ is ducking Wilder for $50M. Since they're both cowards lets take the titles away from all of them and hand them to a PED cheat like Povetkin. Problem solved.

[BennyBlanco]

According to you all, Fury and Ortiz are better than AJ

AJ offered him $15 million

He fought Ortiz for 3 million and fury for 7 million

So why doesn't he take on this easy AJ fight for a way bigger payday and 3 easy belt?

Why is that?

Wilder and Fury were each guaranteed $10M for their fight.

And they signed a contractual rematch clause. If Wilder tried to talk the AJ fight instead of Fury rematch, Wilder would get sued for breach of contract.

[DaNeutral.]

The OPs question has been answered ad nauseam. It's not just what you get, it's what the other guy gets too. $15m is chump change when you believe the other guy will get $50M or $75M. Fairness is kind of like that. I could think a job is reasonable at $50k/yr but I'd be pretty damned unhappy if I started and realized that a guy at the same job was being paid $300k/yr. It also makes a difference when that fight is contingent upon a guaranteed rematch where even if you win and hold all the belts (and all the cards) you still won't make more than 50% of the pot. That's called a poison pill.

If Wilder is ducking AJ for $15M then AJ is ducking Wilder for $50M. Since they're both cowards lets take the titles away from all of them and hand them to a PED cheat like Povetkin. Problem solved.

Put down the 50 million story. Its been burnt its died.

[Thuglife Nelo]

Put down the 50 million story. Its been burnt its died.

“50 million is peanuts.” - Eddie Hearn

[lfc19titles]

The OPs question has been answered ad nauseam. It's not just what you get, it's what the other guy gets too. $15m is chump change when you believe the other guy will get $50M or $75M. Fairness is kind of like that. I could think a job is reasonable at $50k/yr but I'd be pretty damned unhappy if I started and realized that a guy at the same job was being paid $300k/yr. It also makes a difference when that fight is contingent upon a guaranteed rematch where even if you win and hold all the belts (and all the cards) you still won't make more than 50% of the pot. That's called a poison pill.

If Wilder is ducking AJ for $15M then AJ is ducking Wilder for $50M. Since they're both cowards lets take the titles away from all of them and hand them to a PED cheat like Povetkin. Problem solved.

The world knows the 50m is fake

No contract means no offer

Your boy has been exposed

[Granath]

The world knows the 50m is fake

No contract means no offer

Your boy has been exposed

Numbnuts, how is Wilder "my boy" when I have said repeatedly that I think AJ wins that fight? That's why people write off fans like yourself as eur0trash.

Why bother sending a contract when Hearn rejects it before it gets to the paperwork? So fans can ********** to some supposed ducking scenario? f I were AJ I wouldn't take a fixed amount either. Both deals SUCK.

I find it ironic that none of these supposed AJ fans discuss the reported poison pills in that supposed $15M guarantee. You know, the one that if Wilder wins he doesn't even get the majority of the purse in a mandatory rematch? The one that says the fight has to be in UK? The one that says if he doesn't win (which could simply mean a draw) he gets a paltry 30% of any possible follow up fight? How about the one that only guarantees him $5M in a fight he has to win before he takes on AJ? How many of these items do you think we should ignore just so some limp-weenie fans can try to cover up some sort of European inferiority complex? Because a mature person would look at the entire contract and stop leg humping an guarantee as empty as the one you say the $50M is.

From someone who wants to see the fight purely for it being an exciting boxing match, you and your moronic ilk make it awfully tough to want to root for AJ. I'm too old to have "my boys". My boys were Ali, Hagler, Kostya Tszyu and RJJ. Today's guys? They come and they go. I watch the sport for the sake of the sport, not because I have any favorite.

If/when this match happens, I'm putting a small bet on AJ because he's the more fundamentally sound boxer. And I hope we all get to see that matchup because it should be entertaining. But in the meanwhile take your juvenile fanboy-ism and stick it where the sun doesn't shine.

[Sid-Knee]

The OPs question has been answered ad nauseam. It's not just what you get, it's what the other guy gets too. $15m is chump change when you believe the other guy will get $50M or $75M. Fairness is kind of like that. I could think a job is reasonable at $50k/yr but I'd be pretty damned unhappy if I started and realized that a guy at the same job was being paid $300k/yr. It also makes a difference when that fight is contingent upon a guaranteed rematch where even if you win and hold all the belts (and all the cards) you still won't make more than 50% of the pot. That's called a poison pill.

If Wilder is ducking AJ for $15M then AJ is ducking Wilder for $50M. Since they're both cowards lets take the titles away from all of them and hand them to a PED cheat like Povetkin. Problem solved.

So due to having the same job, you should get paid the same? You're suggesting every fighter makes what the likes of Joshua and Canelo make? Hahahahahaha

That's like taking a Scoda and claiming it should be sold for the same price of an Aston Martin due to both being cars. Haha.

This place is ****ing nuts and has the same rational process of a religious nut job.

Floyd, Canelo, Tyson Etc etc give their opponents their biggest payday. But what they don't do is give a big percentage to any Tom **** or Harry. Wilder doesn't sell tickets nor does he generate big money. So to suggest Wilder should get money way beyond his worth on the basis of Joshua being a big ticket seller and generating huge money is completely nuts. There is no logic to it.

When you beat a great fighter, you don't all of a sudden become a great fighter yourself. The same applies to money. Just because you beat the huge money earner in the first fight, doesn't make you worthy of making more money than he in the rematch. Never has it been done before in history but you expect Joshua to do it for Wilder? You're an extremist. You're talking madness. How in the hell would you think a fighter who has done nothing his whole career nor generates huge money should be close to being worth that kind of money? Wilder earns a few million outside of Fury, Whyte and Joshua. That's his true worth. Thinking he's worth 30 odd million dollars is just pure outlandish delusion

Tell me which tinpot title holder who didn't prove Jack **** like Wilder who earned that kind of money against a big A side fighter? It's never happened. Ever. Tell me which tinpot title holder got more than half of the money in the rematch against a big star after winning the first fight?

You work 9-5. Should you get paid the same amount as the biggest earner in the country? **** no. But hey, continue being extremely irrational.