What should PAC's next move be, after his trilogy w/ EM?

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  • MrSmith
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    #21
    Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
    Did you watch the fight? Where did Morales quit or stay down? The ref stopped the fight when Morales went down for THE SECOND TIME! If he wanted to quit then he would have stayed down the first time like De La Hoya did against Hopkins. He beat the count, Pacquiao jumped on him and the ref waved it off when he went down for the second time.

    I don't remember saying he was past his prime, but he I do think he is a SHOT fighter. On the other hand, everytime I think Morales is shot he comes back with a big performance. .
    You asked, "Did I see the fight".

    Answer: Yes, I was at the fight w/ a great f**ckin' view(right smack in the center)!

    Your argument for Morales, "If he wanted to quit, he would've stayed down the first time, and that we can't blame Erika since the ref waved the fight off before the count of 10"

    Answer: 20 million things could've been going through Erika's mind in between the 1st and 2nd knockdown. Obviously Morales chose to fight on after the 1st kd and chose to quit on the 2nd kd.

    This shouldn't even be an argument, 'cause Erika's response to an interview done recently, even if he didn't directly say he quit. His response for losing the fight was because he was FATIGUED. So that means when you are conscious, down on 1 ****in' knee , and staring right at the ref, all this translates to "he still could've gotten up"!

    Here's an analogy for your girl Erika indirectly saying he quit..

    Barry Bonds testified to the Grand Jury, that "he didn't know that the stuff he was taking from his trainer was "the clear".
    So Bonds was taking the steroids, but he didn't know it was steroids. So Barry's argument is, hey I didn't take it if I didn't know it was steroids.

    There's a difference between getting knocked out like Terry Norris against Julian Jackson, Mike Tyson against Lennox Lewis, Tua against Dokiwari, Hearns against Duran. etc... ARE YOU STARTING TO GET THE PICTURE ?

    Morales was up on 1 knee CONSCIOUS meaning Morales was f**cking awake during the knockdown. Even Steward said that the knockdown was more the 'cause of being fatigued, than a flatout k.o. punch! And no one had a better view of it than Steward and crew.

    You say, that "You don't think Erika is past his prime, but
    consider him being shot"

    Dude, a fighter that is shot or being past their prime, is THE SAME DIFFERENCE!

    Morales lost to the top dawgs of the division, does not mean he's shot.

    Now if he starts to lose to fringe contenders and flatout tomato cans, then you have a strong case for your argument!
    Last edited by MrSmith; 07-10-2006, 09:32 PM.

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    • flipside
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      #22
      i think barera isa a big payday

      marquez could shut haters up

      juarez will be a statement

      barrios will cement his place in history

      i think pac should go after the belts

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      • MrSmith
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        #23
        Originally posted by flipside
        i think barera isa a big payday

        marquez could shut haters up

        juarez will be a statement

        barrios will cement his place in history

        i think pac should go after the belts
        I think BigDummy should bet me on this PAC - Morales trilogy, since he says that "Morales comes back big from losses". since he thinks Erika has an inside shot at PAC. He needs to ****in' man up and make me a friggin' moderator already(lmao). Man here's an even better bet, how about if I WIN BigDummy gets kicked out of BoxingScene(lol) and I take his place as moderator! C'mon BigPoppa, prove to me why they call you BigPoppa. Step up like your boy is gonna be steppin' up this Novemba and get drilled the same way, only he's gonna be ending up sidewayz not inside, but outside of the ring.

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        • JoartCC2
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          #24
          Originally posted by MrSmith
          I think BigDummy should bet me on this PAC - Morales trilogy, since he says that "Morales comes back big from losses". since he thinks Erika has an inside shot at PAC. He needs to ****in' man up and make me a friggin' moderator already(lmao). Man here's an even better bet, how about if I WIN BigDummy gets kicked out of BoxingScene(lol) and I take his place as moderator! C'mon BigPoppa, prove to me why they call you BigPoppa. Step up like your boy is gonna be steppin' up this Novemba and get drilled the same way, only he's gonna be ending up sidewayz not inside, but outside of the ring.
          A challenge has been issued, let's await if the other guy is willing to take on the bet.

          It's a fair bet between 2 men I think, if BP will take it.

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          • Mr. Ryan
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            #25
            Originally posted by JoartCC2
            A challenge has been issued, let's await if the other guy is willing to take on the bet.

            It's a fair bet between 2 men I think, if BP will take it.
            WTF Joart, what happened to your other account? Whats with the alt?

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            • Mr. Ryan
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              #26
              I would think a Marquez rematch would be in order, but lets keep it real. Does Marquez really want to go to hell again? I think maybe he should fight one of the titlists, keep busy waiting for something interesting to come along.

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              • psychopath
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                #27
                Originally posted by MrSmith
                Once PAC continues where he left off, and finishes his job in decapitating "El Quitter" on Nov. '06. What should be his next move?
                Of course he should fight MAB next and finish off the unfinish business.

                WBC has officially placed Pac as the number 1 mandatory challenger so I don't think MAB can make further excuse not to fight him at this point.

                If that fight doesn't happen next then fight Barrios.

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                • psychopath
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by flipside
                  i think barera isa a big payday

                  marquez could shut haters up

                  juarez will be a statement

                  barrios will cement his place in history

                  i think pac should go after the belts

                  MAB; Barrios; Juarez and Joan Guzman should be the order of battle. These so that Pac can clean out all prominent names at 130 division.

                  But Marquez? I doubt it. First off I don't think Team PAC will go down to JMMs level now and risk PACMAN's stature for nothing. And if it ever happens Pac will finish off JMM and give him his forced retirement. The only reason why JMM looked good against Pc is because Pac's left was injured coupled with cramps problem.

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                  • psychopath
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                    #29
                    And oh, if Juarez wins on the rematch with MAB, this will give Pac an additional option.

                    Pac could opt to fight Juarez to get the title then Barrios for a unification.

                    MAB? Who needs him if he already lost to Juarez. He was already was beaten black and blue by Pac so there's no urgency to fight him again. If Pac will have 2 belts before he fights MAB this will surely be a bigger draw and Pac will have the bigger purse between the two.

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                    • ELPacman
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                      #30
                      Money talks, people walk. Manny will no doubtly take whichever fight will produce him the most money. This will be against Barrera and he'll go for it without a doubt. A guy he already demolished badly and get paid probably the biggest paycheck of his career? Why the hell not? Of course if Juarez derails this plan then I can see Manny taking on Rocky instead. Rocky's stock already rose against Barrera in 1st fight, so he'll be more of an attraction if he beats Barrera in the 2nd fight to seal the deal.
                      On another note, that Mr.Smith guy has posted some really dumb **** throughout this thread. It's almost unbearable to read. It just doesn't make any sense at all. Erik in no way quit. He completely went out on his shield and you have to seriously be blind or have so much hate to not see that or deny that. He got up when he didn't have to on the 1st knockdown and that was pure heart. When he went from the 2nd and yet he even threw a jab before he went down by the assault, the ref ended it. Of course I don't think he was in any condition to keep going, it wasn't him being KOed or out of his mouth that he didn't want to continue. I don't care if you saw it there, at home, or ringside as a judge. You can't say that didn't happen unless your as ignorant as they come.

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