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  • Redd Foxx
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    #91
    Originally posted by DaNeutral.
    The downside is Americans just dont like foreigners
    Nonsense. For some reason people really want to think that but it couldn't be further from the truth. Some of the most popular in both boxing and MMA have been from outside the US.
    Pacquiao
    Canelo
    GG
    Kovalev
    Anderson Silva
    Fedor
    Jose Aldo
    McGreggor

    That's just making a few that are still currently active. I could go on forever.

    Lenox Lewis did fine in the states. AJ has every opportunity.

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    • Oshio
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      #92
      After this fight the trio of Joshua, Fury and Wilder has nowhere else to go than to fight themselves. Fury-Wilder trilogy in sight? Anyone?

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      • Marchegiano
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        #93
        Originally posted by DaNeutral.
        Im sure he has a mild chance at becoming a success and star in America. The downside is Americans just dont like foreigners but at the same time Americans also dont like Deontay Wilder because they have been complaining about him for years its all over Youtube and its all about the same thing, they gave up on him cuz Finkel wouldnt improve his resume fight after fight after fight after fight. I think even over nationalistic Americans may be happy to see a real champion knock out their fraud belt thief because he embarrasses them. Especially when he comes out to fight dressed like a big black chicken with feathers everywhere. Or when he speaks.
        Americans force people to prove their greatness prior to accepting it. That's why Ali was ridiculed when he called himself The Greatest until near his retirement.

        Very few boxers where accepted prior to their career having made case plainly evident for any to see and when they do they tend to be on the more forgotten side of history. Floyd Patterson isn't exactly dominating most fans ATG lists today, but, Floyd Patterson put asses in seats and was really well loved and respected during his time.

        So for the few that America did latch onto early; it's hard to remember we did it when most don't bring up those champions in casual conversation.

        America is probably the hardest fanbase to excite outside of China because America's favorite pastime is complaining.

        China has a special problem because culturally speaking they put more emphasis on show than sport. Often contestants don't give it their all but rather work together to put on the best display they can. Not WWE style, they're still trying win, just less cut throat than westerns are used to. That said, I don't think Chinese like to see our version of sportsmanship which makes them pretty hard to crack into.

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        • lion33lit
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          #94
          Originally posted by Redd Foxx
          Nonsense. For some reason people really want to think that but it couldn't be further from the truth. Some of the most popular in both boxing and MMA have been from outside the US.
          Pacquiao
          Canelo
          GG
          Kovalev
          Anderson Silva
          Fedor
          Jose Aldo
          McGreggor

          That's just making a few that are still currently active. I could go on forever.

          Lenox Lewis did fine in the states. AJ has every opportunity.
          We dig ALL nationalities! Every nationality actually has a home here....one only needs to inquire their whereabouts and fit right in!...that’s a big part of what makes America America! Of course “Americans” who were born here - who loves the culture and identify with the “hard work” ethic - will be preferred.... A drama ridden life or a rags to riches humble story can only help with the appeal... Over here, the Joshua “commercialized” crap can backfire fast, because we crave the “real” ...”authenticity,” ..“brave” and “risk taking” champs...Joshua comes across like a pampered protected PED filled - past fake wannabe thug....Hopkins “was” a real “thug” and it showed in his opponent selection AND style of fighting!! Kidnapping four belts then having your handlers make DUMB transparent excuses for you - because they’re convinced you’re not ready for the fifth opponent is tantamount to a wussified “champ” protected!...”Champs” aren’t allowed to coast when they’ve earned FOUR belts then “DUCK” their 1st real test! And it’s especially bad when you look like Mr. Olympia and the guy you’re supposed to fight looks like a twig (compared to you)..lol!
          Last edited by lion33lit; 02-10-2019, 06:06 PM.

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          • lion33lit
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            #95
            Originally posted by Marchegiano
            Americans force people to prove their greatness prior to accepting it. That's why Ali was ridiculed when he called himself The Greatest until near his retirement.

            Very few boxers where accepted prior to their career having made case plainly evident for any to see and when they do they tend to be on the more forgotten side of history. Floyd Patterson isn't exactly dominating most fans ATG lists today, but, Floyd Patterson put asses in seats and was really well loved and respected during his time.

            So for the few that America did latch onto early; it's hard to remember we did it when most don't bring up those champions in casual conversation.

            America is probably the hardest fanbase to excite outside of China because America's favorite pastime is complaining.

            China has a special problem because culturally speaking they put more emphasis on show than sport. Often contestants don't give it their all but rather work together to put on the best display they can. Not WWE style, they're still trying win, just less cut throat than westerns are used to. That said, I don't think Chinese like to see our version of sportsmanship which makes them pretty hard to crack into.
            Lol...Complaining is what they specialize in...One hit wonders can many times be booed to no end when they attempt to introduce that 2nd hit...You gotta have some tough skin over here.

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            • Marchegiano
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              #96
              Originally posted by lion33lit
              Lol...Complaining is what they specialize in...One hit wonders can many times be booed to no end when they attempt to introduce that 2nd hit...You gotta have some tough skin over here.
              that's a good point.

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              • Batfink
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                #97
                It’s good news Joshua is travelling it’s a shame it’s after the prevailing wind changed direction. Miller is not bad not sure he is up to the challenge don’t think he is in Joshua’s league to cause him any serious trouble although I would expect anybody who fights for a title getting in the best shape possible so we should see the best Miller. It’s pretty much a foregone conclusion and I have no interesting in that fight, For me the heavyweight fights to watch will be Dillian Whytes outing vs Ortiz/Breazeale, and of course the big one wilder vs fury II that should be a real barnstormer both have the bit between the teeth and it’s gonna be epic.
                Last edited by Batfink; 02-11-2019, 09:49 AM.

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                • BWC
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                  #98
                  I certainly hope so. I just hope people actually see him. He needs to hit the media circuit hard. He can't just sit back and be casual about it like in the UK where everybody knows who he is and has known who he is since 2012.

                  Here in the US, only boxing fans know who he is. To crossover, he needs to hit Late Night, ESPN, even morning shows etc.

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                  • Tom Cruise
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by BWC
                    I certainly hope so. I just hope people actually see him. He needs to hit the media circuit hard. He can't just sit back and be casual about it like in the UK where everybody knows who he is and has known who he is since 2012.

                    Here in the US, only boxing fans know who he is. To crossover, he needs to hit Late Night, ESPN, even morning shows etc.
                    He is anything but casual with the media over here. One of the hardest working fighters ive seen outside of boxing. Always giving interviews, on chat shows, doing photoshoots etc

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                    • BWC
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Tom Cruise
                      He is anything but casual with the media over here. One of the hardest working fighters ive seen outside of boxing. Always giving interviews, on chat shows, doing photoshoots etc
                      If he applies the same ethic and focus here, there is no reason he can't be a huge star. Look the women in the US are probably more thirsty than the British birds lol. If he plays it right, he'll become a huge sex symbol and well on his way to superstar status.

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