I don't know why people are writing off Wilder

[DARKSEID]

Because unless you're flawless and 50-0 with dominant performances, people will say "they got exposed."

Wilder always has a chance. He proved that when he was behind on the cards against Fury and almost put him out.

Before the fury fight a lot of people were on wilder's dlck and now he can't seem to beat anybody in a fantasy fight. He went from the bronze bomber to bum in about an hour.

I've picked up on the way NSB works now lol

I just wish Joshua would fight Fury or wilder already, but then that would derail the hype train these guys seem to be on once he gets exposed.

[j0zef]

Because he spend the first 30 something minutes getting dominated before landing the shot, and that was against a fat, out of shape, Fury. If Tyson is in anything close to decent shape, it should be widely expected that Tyson will box circles around him and may even stop him via a TKO.

[Granath]

As always I don't have a dog in the fight.

Fury is the fastest and slickest of the fighters. He also by far has the least amount of power.
Wilder has the most power but by far is the least technically proficient.
AJ has good power, is in excellent shape but can look robotic and has the least pro experience.

I'm not writing off any of the three and I don't think lessons from one match up can be applied to another. For instance, I don't thing you can see Wilder knock down Fury twice and think that he'd do the same to Joshua. Wilder would have to respect AJ's power a lot more than he respected Fury's. Styles make fights and we have no idea what will happen until they get into the ring and square off, which I hope happens sooner rather than later. Fury is 30, Wilder is 33. Time is on AJ's side.

If I had to bet? I'd put my money on Joshua to be the best of the three. He pretty well dominated Povetkin who is a pretty darn good fighter. That is probably the best looking win against top competition that any of them have. But for all we know, Fury could beat Wilder, Wilder could beat AJ and AJ could beat Fury. Or vice versa.

[DARKSEID]

I just hope Joshua doesn't get beat before Fury and Wilder get to him lol..

Miller has some power and joshua can't fight going backwards.

[Batfink]

I have to agree the sentiment on here about wilder. For all the critics that slam his ability and there are many they should remember that this is boxing and one punch can change the game it just so happens that wilder has that exact punch. In addition he has excellent conditioning and when you place those two attributes together it results in what happened in Tyson Wilder I. This guy is dangerous until the last second of the last round. Tyson Fury worked hard that night to avoid getting hit with that punch and well he failed on the night, in that respect against less agile and skilful boxers you have to expect wilder to have much better success. I would still say that Joshua vs Wilder is a close call I’m with Wilder on that however Joshua has a chance if he closes him out early. Im not a fan of the whole bronze bomber moniker I think he should change his name to the black mamba or king cobra. He is fast, agile and when he strikes it’s deadly one punch knock out.

[sunny31]

Before the fury fight a lot of people were on wilder's dlck and now he can't seem to beat anybody in a fantasy fight. He went from the bronze bomber to bum in about an hour.

I've picked up on the way NSB works now lol

I just wish Joshua would fight Fury or wilder already, but then that would derail the hype train these guys seem to be on once he gets exposed.

The slingshot effect and knee jerk reactions have always been a problem here, but there are plenty of people who knew what Wilder was before the fight (myself included)

Your problem is you've made a half serious, half troll thread where once people challenged your stance you decided you were above a boxing debate, and the fighters are "simple" to break down, it comes across obnoxious and your attitude kind of stinks.

You've also generalised by saying 'a lot of people thought this and said that' and grouped anyone challenging your opinion as an AJ fanboy, which is pretty ignorant if you ask me. If you didn't want to be challenged or debate, why make the thread?

[Curt Henning]

people are writing him off because they already wrote him off and want fury/wilder 1 to validate them...they also think its somehow excuses AJ for ducking wilder...someone actually outboxed wilder for most of the fight AND survived it.....they feel validated...even though it was similar to how wilder fights usually unfold

[_Rexy_]

I personally think Wilder stops Joshua, moving on from that i can't predict the Wilder/Fury II outcome, the weight thing that Fury seems to be losing makes me pick against him, and the fact that i still feel that he needs another 1 or 2 fights to get fully match fit.

the weight thing depends. He's still (somewhat) newly sober, and it sounds like he was a big drinker for a long time. He's not in camp right now, so his body may still just be losing all the garbage fat that alcohol put on and he's cutting down to his natural body weight.

[Fabes88]

Before the fury fight a lot of people were on wilder's dlck and now he can't seem to beat anybody in a fantasy fight. He went from the bronze bomber to bum in about an hour.

I've picked up on the way NSB works now lol

I just wish Joshua would fight Fury or wilder already, but then that would derail the hype train these guys seem to be on once he gets exposed.

I want that two but they don’t want to accept the offer presented to them they prefer to fight each other next so what can we do

[KTFOKING]

I don't count Wilder out at all in the rematch. I had the first one for Fury as did most (114-112), but Wilder has shown now for two consecutive fights that his power is still deadly late in fights.

Fury will always be levels ahead of Wilder technically, but there are a few adjustments Wilder can make. If he accepts he needs to make a few tweaks, only then will he increase his chances of winning. If he makes going on these press tours talking about how he got robbed and Reis counted too long? Then yeah, Fury will out box him again.....but this time do it even more clearer.