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  • KTFOKING
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    #91
    Originally posted by juggernaut666
    you have not a clue what you are on about. wilder is NOWHERE equal to that of capability to generate Joshua money so why are you comparing 2 other fighters who are more equal ?

    Wilder is about a fraction of net worth or generated worth to Joshua and that's being generous. Wilder HAs to accept anything that's thrown his way ,he makes 2 million a fight without the other top 2 guys. And do you really think Wilder and his team will cry about DAZN if they are guaranteed a certain amount instead of guessing like with the fury fight which did NOT do what they expected because both Fury and Wilder are huge legends in their own minds that are A sides???????????

    At the end of the day they BOTH need Joshua ,no amount of crying on the forum changes that and in fact their careers will look watered down without him, win or lose , they have a shorter shelf life and Fury hasn't even defended a title yet,you guys need to lay off the crack.....
    Huh? I compared the type of revenue the other fight generated. And by Hearn's own words, he expects Wilder/Joshua to do around the same numbers. Which is what this thread is about.

    And Barry Hearn said the winner of Wilder/Fury will be fair to ask for a 50/50 split. The head of Matchroom's own words right there, NOT mine.

    So yeah, the winner of Wilder/Fury rematch will have plenty of leverage in the Joshua negotiations....No amount of crying from you will change that.

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    • PRINCEKOOL
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      #92
      Originally posted by Frankie2Jabs
      This is how we know Hearn is just nervous with AJ 2019 and what's happening with Wilder vs Fury 2 rematch success
      Neither Tyson Fury or Deontay Wilder ALONE have the market value of Anthony Joshua, they would of gained that already after their first fight. Eddie Hearn is not nervous, he actually wants the Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury rematch to do well.

      I think that Anthony Joshua's first fight in america may even out do the Fury vs Wilder rematch.

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        #93
        Originally posted by KTFOKING
        Huh? I compared the type of revenue the other fight generated. And by Hearn's own words, he expects Wilder/Joshua to do around the same numbers. Which is what this thread is about.

        And Barry Hearn said the winner of Wilder/Fury will be fair to ask for a 50/50 split. The head of Matchroom's own words right there, NOT mine.

        So yeah, the winner of Wilder/Fury rematch will have plenty of leverage in the Joshua negotiations....No amount of crying from you will change that.
        What does the Winner of fury and wilder getting 50% have to do with anything you stated ? That's the point they cannot generate money without Joshua .

        you compare so and so getting 40% as though Wilder can generate that money elsewhere and doesn't need Joshua. Canelo and GGG are huge draws themselves they can make a significant amount alone, Wilder cant that's why he would have fought /breazeale for 2 million, maybe 3?

        You are just solidifying how big Joshua market is and at the same time saying Wilder doesn't need to accept anything about DAZN ???Sorry but that is ass backwards because uit doesn't make sense. Wilder is not dictating ANYTHING,if its on the DAZN it there,if he wants to riun like a little ***** as always...well who cares he wont have a belt to run with in all likelihood after 2019 anyway,one can only hope. lol

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          #94
          Originally posted by juggernaut666
          What does the Winner of fury and wilder getting 50% have to do with anything you stated ? That's the point they cannot generate money without Joshua .

          you compare so and so getting 40% as though Wilder can generate that money elsewhere and doesn't need Joshua. Canelo and GGG are huge draws themselves they can make a significant amount alone, Wilder cant that's why he would have fought /breazeale for 2 million, maybe 3?

          You are just solidifying how big Joshua market is and at the same time saying Wilder doesn't need to accept anything about DAZN ???Sorry but that is ass backwards because uit doesn't make sense. Wilder is not dictating ANYTHING,if its on the DAZN it there,if he wants to riun like a little ***** as always...well who cares he wont have a belt to run with in all likelihood after 2019 anyway,one can only hope. lol
          What the hell are you even talking about? This conversation is about Wilder vs Joshua if Wilder beats Joshua. When did I say Wilder will be able to do over a million buys against someon else? THE THREAD IS ABOUT HEARN SAYING WILDER/JOSHUA DOES OVER A MILLION BUYS.

          I referenced a fight (GGG/Canelo) that did similar numbers to what Hearn stated this fight would do. I then referenced the type of purses both fighters made for that fight.

          And if you don't think Wilder can dictate anything if he beats Fury? I don't know what to tell you. So what you are saying is whatever Joshua's side offers to him, he will have to accept? L-O-L................

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            #95
            Originally posted by Phenom
            So you agree that they're shamelessly promoting AJ on the back of Wilder name finally we agree on something

            cheers mate
            The only thing phenom about you is you're phenomenally ****** ! Its about time you realizing Wilder has rid the Joshua name for 3 years now ! Yes cheers

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              #96
              Originally posted by KTFOKING
              What the hell are you even talking about? This conversation is about Wilder vs Joshua if Wilder beats Joshua. When did I say Wilder will be able to do over a million buys against someon else? THE THREAD IS ABOUT HEARN SAYING WILDER/JOSHUA DOES OVER A MILLION BUYS.

              I referenced a fight (GGG/Canelo) that did similar numbers to what Hearn stated this fight would do. I then referenced the type of purses both fighters made for that fight.

              And if you don't think Wilder can dictate anything if he beats Fury? I don't know what to tell you. So what you are saying is whatever Joshua's side offers to him, he will have to accept? L-O-L................

              You said Wilder will not just accept DAZN, that is YOUR words as if he can generate money elsewhere like that ,you are to slow to understand that...that's not my fault is it ?

              The fact you admit it does over a million buys then say Wilder wont just accept any offer is ridiculous ,you guys just don't get that he's not in control at any point here.

              You are another idiot on here ,ZERO knowledge on boxing business and has cant fix ****** with you either ,if you cant get that Joshua is the one generating the money not 2 million dollar Wilder I don't know what else to tell you except stay off the dumbed down you tube channels you guys listen to then come on here TRYING to sound smart ...it AINT working!

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                #97
                Originally posted by juggernaut666
                You said Wilder will not just accept DAZN, that is YOUR words as if he can generate money elsewhere like that ,you are to slow to understand that...that's not my fault is it ?

                The fact you admit it does over a million buys then say Wilder wont just accept any offer is ridiculous ,you guys just don't get that he's not in control at any point here.

                You are another idiot on here ,ZERO knowledge on boxing business and has cant fix ****** with you either ,if you cant get that Joshua is the one generating the money not 2 million dollar Wilder I don't know what else to tell you except stay off the dumbed down you tube channels you guys listen to then come on here TRYING to sound smart ...it AINT working!
                Um yes, he won't just accept DAZN. His team will be pushing to put this fight on SHO PPV. That is true, nothing false about that statement.

                Huh? The fact I said it does over a million buys and Wilder won't accept any offer is ridiculous? What the hell are you spewing about now? The fact that it will do over a million buys (Eddie's words), give it more incentive to take place on PPV.

                I have zero knowledge of boxing business, but YOU do? LMAO!!!

                So good to know that you think Wilder will accept any offer that comes his way from Joshua if he beats Fury...On a PPV that will do big numbers on its own right btw. And do you really think Wilder will only be making 2-3M a fight if he beats Fury in the rematch? You can't possibly be that ******. If he wins the rematch, he will be a PPV fighter the rest of his career. Will he make as much against anyone other than Joshua if he gets a 50/50 split? Of course not, but he damn sure will be making more than 2-3M the rest of the way and will have a lot more negotiating power than you think.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
                  Neither Tyson Fury or Deontay Wilder ALONE have the market value of Anthony Joshua, they would of gained that already after their first fight. Eddie Hearn is not nervous, he actually wants the Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury rematch to do well.

                  I think that Anthony Joshua's first fight in america may even out do the Fury vs Wilder rematch.
                  Outdo it in terms of what?

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by kafkod
                    It's not a question of Hearn getting what he wants, but of DAZN and Sky getting their contractual rights. It would have to be on Sky in the UK, because AJ would have to pay a massive penalty fee if he broke his contract with them.

                    We know that Hearn's contract with DAZN gives them first dibs on all his fights, in the US and the UK. If they want a fight, and they match the highest offer from anybody else, they get it. And they would match anything ST was prepared to pay.

                    AJ is going to be paid as much for fighting Miller as Canelo earned for his first fight with GGG, and that sold 1.3million PPVs on HBO.
                    AJ/Wilder is going to be 50/50. Wilder and Haymon are going to demand control of US TV Rights. UK TV Rights are not important as Sky is the best place to maximise revenue

                    However DAZN will significantly reduce the visibility of Joshua v Wilder in the US.

                    Haymon is not ******, Wilder is not a DAZN/Hearn fighter he don’t owe DAZN nothing. Showtime is Wilder’s Partner and Deontay and Haymon both have loyalty to Showtime.

                    Fight ain’t happening unless it has Showtime involvement. Wilder and Showtime could easily sign legal paper together, they just don’t because that’s the US Way of doing buisness and allowing PBC the flexibility to move their fighters around FOX, CBS, NBC etc

                    If Wilder-Joshua takes place in the US-it’s a SHO PPV

                    If Joshua-Wilder takes place in the UK- DAZN will probably get live rights, but Showtime will get Highlights.

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by MC Hammer
                      Wilder has made every fight he wanted and fights his team said he shouldn't like Ortiz. He accepted the lowball from Matchroom too. The only person who doesn't seem to have control over their career is AJ, who literally cannot sign his own name. Matchroom owns that.

                      Also, Alabama is a very small state so you're saying that he isn't egotistical.
                      Wilder has made every fight he wanted ? Really what happened when Finkel took the mic away from him after the Stiverne win and said no way are they fighting Wlad ? HaHa . You guys on here. And trust me Wilder isn't the grand master schemist ,its Finkel who collaborate with Wilder how to get the fights best suited via a 48 year old and a guy out of top level for 3 years...yes everyone is aware of the great team wilder masterminds ,even got the WBC to mandate a guy out entirely for 2 years. HaHA...cant make this stuff up.

                      Anyone with a ego the size of any state should tell you something.

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