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Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Postyou're doing a lot of babbling for no reason. Who did you think won between ggg and jacobs and ggg and Canelo in the first fight? Just tell me who you scored the fights for. Stop with the jibber jabber about ringside experts and your theories.
“Styles.” When judges watch fights they automatically assume that every style is identical, and which is why on boxing forums styles aren’t dissected unlike casual whom are the elite in explaining fights!
Some people are afraid to talk about boxing culture nor acknowledge what judges see as well the fights they have covered for 40+ years. It’s ok if you don’t understand close scoring, how to rationalize why a boxer could win a round. I think judges score by the color of the gloves and the logos from the trunks.
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Originally posted by j.razor View PostYou did an EXCELLENT job of not providing ANY proof 😂
Teddy Atlas --------------------------------> 118-110 GGG
Unnamed boxing site #1 ------------------> 118-110 GGG
Jeff Powell (UK Daily Mail) ----------------> 118-111 GGG
Kelly Pavlik ---------------------------------> 117-111 GGG
Dave Allen ----------------------------------> 117-111 GGG
Mookie Alexander (Bloody Elbow) --------> 117-111 GGG
Brian Campbell (CBS) ---------------------> 117-111 GGG
Jack Rathborn (Mirror UK) ----------------> 117-111 GGG
Harold Lederman (HBO) ------------------> 116-112 GGG
Devon Alexander --------------------------> 116-112 GGG
Dan Rafael (ESPN) ------------------------> 116-112 GGG
Al Bernstein -------------------------------> 116-112 GGG
Bryan Graham (Guardian UK) ------------> 116-112 GGG
Gareth Davies (UK Telegraph) -----------> 116-112 GGG
Steve Bunce (BoxNation) ----------------> 116-112 GGG
Tom Loeffler ------------------------------> 116-112 GGG
Sergio Martinez ---------------------------> 116-112 GGG
Amir Khan ---------------------------------> 116-112 GGG
Matthew Macklin --------------------------> 116-112 GGG
Steve Lillis (BoxNation) -------------------> 116-112 GGG
Bob Velin (USA Today) --------------------> 116-112 GGG
Lyle Fitzsimmons (CBS) -------------------> 116-112 GGG
Kevin McRae (Bleacher Report) -----------> 116-112 GGG
Shaun Al-Shatti (MMA Fighting) ----------> 116-112 GGG
Ryan Frederick (Wrestling Observer) ----> 116-112 GGG
Patrick Stumberg (MMA Mania) ----------> 116-112 GGG
Michael Woods (Ring) --------------------> 116-112 GGG
Nigel Collins (ESPN) ----------------------> 116-112 GGG
Cliff Rold ----------------------------------> 116-112 GGG
Bad Left Hook Writer #2 -----------------> 116-112 GGG
John A. MacDonald (Boxing Monthly) ---> 116-112 GGG
Ron Lewis (The Times) -------------------> 116-112 GGG
Daniel Cormier (UFC) --------------------> 116-112 GGG
Dardan Zenunaj --------------------------> 116-112 GGG
Kevin Mitchell (Guardian UK) ------------> 116-113 GGG
Josh Taylor --------------------------------> 116-113 GGG
Joshua Bautsi -----------------------------> 116-113 GGG
Matt Christie (Boxing News) -------------> 116-113 GGG
Barry Jones (BoxNation) -----------------> 116-113 GGG
Adam Booth -------------------------------> 116-114 GGG
Jordan Breen (Sherdog) ------------------> 115-112 GGG
Caleb Truax -------------------------------> 115-113 GGG
Kevin Iole (Yahoo) ------------------------> 115-113 GGG
Gary Locket -------------------------------> 115-113 GGG
Will Esco (Bad Left Hook) -----------------> 115-113 GGG
Phil Murphy (ESPN) -----------------------> 115-113 GGG
Mike Harris (SI) ---------------------------> 115-113 GGG
Paul Fontaine (Wrestling Observer) ------> 115-113 GGG
MMA Brazil ---------------------------------> 115-113 GGG
Sean Sheehan (Severe MMA) -------------> 115-113 GGG
Rob Tatum (Combat Press) ----------------> 115-113 GGG
Patrick Wyman (Bleacher Report) ---------> 115-113 GGG
Chavez Jr -----------------------------------> 115-113 GGG
Juan Manuel Marquez ----------------------> 115-113 GGG
Joel Diaz ------------------------------------> 115-113 GGG
Marc Livitz (SecondsOut) ------------------> 115-113 GGG
Stephen A. Smith (ESPN) -----------------> 115-113 GGG
Graham Houston (Boxing Monthly) -------> 115-113 GGG
Ed Robinson (Sky Sports) -----------------> 115-113 GGG
Unnamed boxing site #2 ------------------> 115-113 GGG
Tom Gray (Ring) ---------------------------> 115-114 GGG
Max Kellerman -----------------------------> Golovkin
Lennox Lewis ------------------------------> Golovkin
Shane Mosley ------------------------------> Golovkin
Austin Trout --------------------------------> Golovkin
Paulie Malignaggi --------------------------> Golovkin
Enzo Macarenelli ---------------------------> Golovkin
Scott Cardle --------------------------------> Golvokin
Terence Crawford ---------------------------> Golovkin
Reece Bellotti ------------------------------> Golvokin
Liam Smith ---------------------------------> Golovkin
Peter Quillin --------------------------------> Golovkin
Liam Williams ------------------------------> Golovkin
Ohara Davies -------------------------------> Golovkin
Luke Campbell -----------------------------> Golovkin
Dave Coldwell ------------------------------> Golovkin
Badou Jack ---------------------------------> Golovkin
Kevin Kelly (boxer) -------------------------> Golovkin
Steve Kim -----------------------------------> Golovkin
Doug Fischer --------------------------------> Golovkin
Ring TV guy (name?) ----------------------> Golvokin
Cornelius Bundrage ------------------------> Golovkin
Gabriel Rosado ------------------------------> Golovkin
Kal Yafai -------------------------------------> Golovkin
Julian Williams ------------------------------> Golovkin
Vanes Martirosyan --------------------------> Golovkin
Michael Montero ----------------------------> Golovkin
James Brady (SB Nation) ------------------> Golovkin
Joe Rogan (UFC) ----------------------------> Golovkin
Jim Rome (sports broadcaster) ------------> Golovkin
Kovalev -------------------------------------> Golvokin
Danny Jacobs -------------------------------> Golovkin
Murat Gassiev ------------------------------> Golovkin
Johnny Nelson ------------------------------> Golovkin
Rosie Perez ---------------------------------> Golovkin
Lou DiBella ---------------------------------> Golovkin
Tony Jeffries --------------------------------> Golovkin
Martin Samuel (UK Daily Mail) -------------> Golovkin
Joseph Parker ------------------------------> Golovkin
Bob Arum ----------------------------------> Golovkin
Fernando Schwarz (Fox Sports Mexico) --> Golovkin
Sportsbook 1 ------------------------------> Golovkin
Sportsbook 2 ------------------------------> Golovkin
Sportsbook 3 ------------------------------> Golovkin
Sportsbook 4 ------------------------------> Golovkin
Sportsbook 5 ------------------------------> Golovkin
Sportsbook 6 ------------------------------> Golovkin
Sportsbook 7 ------------------------------> Golovkin
Marcos Villegas (Fight Hub) --------------> Golovkin
Ana Julaton --------------------------------> Golovkin
John Buccigross (ESPN) -------------------> Golovkin
Nonito Donaire -----------------------------> Golovkin
Leo Santa Cruz ----------------------------> Golovkin
Fernando Vargas ---------------------------> Golovkin
Michael Bisping (UFC) ---------------------> Golovkin
Narhan Gorman ---------------------------> Golovkin
Lance Pugmire (LA Times) ----------------> 114-114 Draw
Chris Mannix (Yahoo) ---------------------> 114-114 Draw
Associated Press --------------------------> 114-114 Draw
Kenny Porter ------------------------------> 114-114 Draw
Roy Jones ---------------------------------> 114-114 Draw
Peter Fury ---------------------------------> 114-114 Draw
Tommy Hearns ----------------------------> 114-114 Draw
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Originally posted by Frankie2Jabs View Post“Styles make fights.”
“Styles.” When judges watch fights they automatically assume that every style is identical, and which is why on boxing forums styles aren’t dissected unlike casual whom are the elite in explaining fights!
Some people are afraid to talk about boxing culture nor acknowledge what judges see as well the fights they have covered for 40+ years. It’s ok if you don’t understand close scoring, how to rationalize why a boxer could win a round. I think judges score by the color of the gloves and the logos from the trunks.
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Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Post
Teddy Atlas --------------------------------> 118-110 GGG
Harold Lederman (HBO) ------------------> 116-112 GGG
Dave Moretti ———------------------------> 115-113 GGG
Juan Manuel Marquez ----------------------> 115-113 GGG
Tom Gray (Ring) ---------------------------> 115-114 GGG
Chavez Sr ———————————————-> 116-112 Canelo
Tommy Hearns ----------------------------> 114-114 Draw
Let me ask you, did Canelo “run?” That was the narrative from the first fight.
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Originally posted by Frankie2Jabs View PostIt’s ok. Critical thinking to analyze styles is not for you. It’s best you go off ringside observations, tweets, polls and Lederman. Leave it to the big dogs.
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Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Postyou think you're a big dog but in reality you're just kissing with the puppies. You can't even answer a simple question and talk in circles. Shut your fake Larry merchant ass up.
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Originally posted by Frankie2Jabs View PostLike I said, go off ringside observersation and tweets. Forget how to score and balance alternative close fights. It’s not for you. Leave it to the big dogs.
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Originally posted by Jab jab boom View PostI don't need to go off of ringside scores, I know what I saw and in that first fight, I saw ggg win clearly over canelo. I also saw him beat jacobs. He was more aggressive, more active, landed more punches. Yet you can't even answer a simple question about who you had winning. All you do is type nonsense and try to seem intelligent but you make yourself look dumber by the post. Either you're trolling or an idiot.
The problem with you is assuming who I had winning. I thought the Draw made sense. Only dumb person is you because you probably don’t know the nature of swing rounds nor style. Golovkin fought the same in the second while Canelo didn’t. Therefore, benefit of doubt goes to Hearns and Chavez from their POV. Again, your the type of Golovkin fans, unlike many others who say “I could see it go either way, or I wasn’t mad with a Draw,” do not accept GGG’s mistakes.
You see, swing rounds exist. With your “clear” vision of how you saw the fight makes your opinion like a casual.
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