Anyone else getting sick of the lies?

[chrisJS]

I’m sick of the whole saga and stopped paying attention beyond headlines about 6 months ago. I found it funny how passionate the fans were that their guy was being ducked and is a god and the other guy is a coward and a fraud.

Notice how fanboys and haters always pick the right guy? None of their fighters duck yet all the guys they hate are scared cowards?

That’s how **** things have gotten with boxing fans and boxing that the hottest topic is who’s ducking who. It’s always been the lowest form of boxing discussion. It makes mythical matches look like worthwhile discussion.

[Granath]

I’m sick of the whole saga and stopped paying attention beyond headlines about 6 months ago. I found it funny how passionate the fans were that their guy was being ducked and is a god and the other guy is a coward and a fraud.

Notice how fanboys and haters always pick the right guy? None of their fighters duck yet all the guys they hate are scared cowards?

That’s how **** things have gotten with boxing fans and boxing that the hottest topic is who’s ducking who. It’s always been the lowest form of boxing discussion. It makes mythical matches look like worthwhile discussion.

Yeah, this is one of the things that tick me off about modern boxing.

I was lucky that I got hooked on boxing in the 70s and 80s as a teenager. With the ABC Wide World of Sports and then HBO there was still a lot of ducking but there were good fights ALL THE TIME. Sure there were fights we wanted to see that we didn't (Larry Holmes being notorious for ducking) but there were plenty of great fights. Guys like Ali, Tyson and Lewis were willing to fight pretty much anyone and the guys at the lower weight classes had to to make bank.

Nowadays all these jokers do is posture. It's the epitome of a **** tease - all show and no go. And by the time they do get together you don't really care and one of the guys is past his prime (Mayweather/Paq was 5 years overdue). It's the reason I generally don't pay for my PPV streams. Make a good fight and you'll get my money. Otherwise, I'll stream that crap for free and to hell with it.

Then there's the BS of "I offered him $10m to fight" when you know that a fight that big will generate revenues of $50m or higher. Shut the hell up with that nonsense and give the guy you're fighting a fair split. It's posturing and not particularly effective except to the fanboys or morons.

I think Joshua is probably the most talented HW out there right now. But I label him a coward for not having the balls to take on Wilder or Fury. He's more interested in keeping the HW title than he is fighting for it and that means he doesn't deserve it.

[Lopez_Boxing]

Yeah it p***es me off man, it creates a horrible stereotype of us British boxing fans. Most of these idiots aren’t even boxing fans, they’re matchroom/sky sports fans.

I've been to quite a few live environments. Around a lot of different cultural groups. And HANDS DOWN, to me, the best pure boxing fans are the British. Win or lose you guys still support your guy as long as he tries hia hardest. You've had so many many great champions and talents come from te UK it is comical that you actual have guys celebrating AJ as anything other than mediocre. I get being a fan of some one that's not Great. I mean great boxers are only a few a generation if we are lucky. Truth be told AJ is the English wilder. AJ isn't great. He has no skill. He's super technical and big and it's good enough to get him through this weak division. Wilder isn't skilled of technical, but his power is good enough to get him through this weak division.

[True-Boxing-Fan]

Apr 2017- After beating Klitschko- AJ calls out a 28 stone Fury despite Wilder being in attendance. Now Fury is in shape and active, he’s no longer interested in Fury cause he holds no belts and cause “no one told me about lineal champion”. Yet the IBO title matters apparently.

AJ publicly says he’d accept a 50m offer to fight Wilder. Team Wilder offer him 50m he rejects the offer. Hearn then tries to cry about “no contract and proof of funds”. When a contract and proof of funds are not provided until the offer is accepted. When Hearn sent Wilder an offer for Dillian Whyte did he provide a contract or proof of funds? No. Because the offer had not been accepted. When Hearn sent an offer to Klitschko did he provide a contract and proof of funds before the offer was accepted? No, that was only provided after the offer was accepted. AJ claims the fight must take place in England for the fans, yet he is sponsored by stub hub. Hearn then says AJ’s next fight must be sorted by Dec 1st 2018 (coincidentally the same day as Wilder-Fury) it is now Feb 5th 2019- AJ still doesn’t have an opponent.

At the O2 in December, AJ says if Wilder and Fury are not available, he will fight Dillian Whyte next. Despite booking Wembley over 8 months in advance, AJ is now likely fighting Big Baby Miller in June in NYC. Yet AJ won’t fight Wilder in the US cause he doesn’t want the fans to pay for travel. How many of those fans have already paid for travel and accommodation down to London after they announced his next fight date at Wembley well in advance?

I dunno how people keep buying into this sh**😂😂

Quit trying to bash one guy (AJ) to make the other (Wilder) look better.

Fact is both are b1tch's and deserve nothing but shhht. *** Wilder and *** AJ.

[Dariusz]

As said before, there should be only one most important belt = end of ducking bull**** forever. Having 4 or 5 belts is ridiculous. I know this is radical but the only way to cut the crap.

[boliodogs]

As far as I am concerned AJ is the true champion until someone beats him. He has beaten far more champions and top contenders in far less pro fights. Both Wilder and Fury are demanding a 50/50 split to fight AJ and I don't think they deserve it. AJ is the biggest earner and the holder of all belts but the WBC. He should get more than 50% and that's my opinion as an American boxing fan.

[just the facts]

Yeah, this is one of the things that tick me off about modern boxing.

I was lucky that I got hooked on boxing in the 70s and 80s as a teenager. With the ABC Wide World of Sports and then HBO there was still a lot of ducking but there were good fights ALL THE TIME. Sure there were fights we wanted to see that we didn't (Larry Holmes being notorious for ducking) but there were plenty of great fights. Guys like Ali, Tyson and Lewis were willing to fight pretty much anyone and the guys at the lower weight classes had to to make bank.

Nowadays all these jokers do is posture. It's the epitome of a **** tease - all show and no go. And by the time they do get together you don't really care and one of the guys is past his prime (Mayweather/Paq was 5 years overdue). It's the reason I generally don't pay for my PPV streams. Make a good fight and you'll get my money. Otherwise, I'll stream that crap for free and to hell with it.

Then there's the BS of "I offered him $10m to fight" when you know that a fight that big will generate revenues of $50m or higher. Shut the hell up with that nonsense and give the guy you're fighting a fair split. It's posturing and not particularly effective except to the fanboys or morons.

I think Joshua is probably the most talented HW out there right now. But I label him a coward for not having the balls to take on Wilder or Fury. He's more interested in keeping the HW title than he is fighting for it and that means he doesn't deserve it.

Sorry gotta ask. Who exactly are you contending Larry Holmes ducked?

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Quit trying to bash one guy (AJ) to make the other (Wilder) look better.

Fact is both are b1tch's and deserve nothing but shhht. *** Wilder and *** AJ.

I’m talking facts not opinion. All this happened. I’m not trying to make Wilder look good at all, he’s technically poor with a **** average resume but that doesn’t change the fact Hearn/Matchroom/AJ have avoided a fight with him. I’m just exposing their lies and if you can’t comprehend that your a complete and utter fool.

[Granath]

Sorry gotta ask. Who exactly are you contending Larry Holmes ducked?

There's a few posts in the all-time HW History thread. I'm pretty specific about the guys Holmes ducked and the weakness/inexperience of his opposition there. Join the fun!