Comments Thread For: Barry Hearn: Wilder is Not Very Good, Easiest Fight For Joshua

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  • Ake-Dawg
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    #91
    Originally posted by EnglishOxide
    You realise people are allowed to change opinions right?

    With Fury's dominance over Deyonce maybe he now feels Fury is the most dangerous fight.

    Barry and Eddie don't have to sing from the same hymn sheet. They've stated many times they have different opinions sometimes.
    Not one single person in boxing felt that Fury dominated Wilder. Besides that, Joshua doesn't have half the boxing and defensive skills as Fury.

    So explain how either Hearn changed their view based on the Fury fight. And before you try it, both statements were made after the Ortiz fight.

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    • Jax teller
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      #92
      Originally posted by Scipio2009
      I never said that Joshua couldn't land on Wilder; read before you speak.

      Wilder sits in Joshua's holes in his game, just as Joshua sits in Wilder's holes in his game (all the awkwardness aside, if you come right at Wilder with smarts, he's playing dueling pistols with you and he's a touch wide), which is why Barry Hearn has consistently advised to take any and every other fight before stepping in with Wilder (or Fury for that matter).

      You're literally throwing dice in either fight, and Hearn knows it, his boy knows it, and Joshua fans should know it too.
      Barry said so for financial reason of making it the biggest fight Mayweather Pac style.

      I'd give Wilder a chance but nothing more I overestimated him before against Ortiz and Fury. Ortiz being a easy to hit shown by lesser fighters than Wilder I didn't think he'd have much of a problem but was wrong. And then with Fury looking terrible in his comeback fights with fans booing even I thould he'd be lucky to make it past 7.

      AJ's had disappointing perfomances against Takam and Parker for sure but he never looked like he was could lose. I'd say AJ will be a decent favourite if Wilder makes it past Fury which I hope he does so we can se that fight.

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      • _Rexy_
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        #93
        Originally posted by Jax teller
        Definitely regarding the KO power these are all big guys and have the potential to knock anyone out, I don't think Fury's commits his power as he's busy keeping on his toes moving in and out instead of planting. I think Parkers a similar story where he's so big how could he not be able to do damage? He showed a bit of potential when he got desperate at the end of the Whyte fight, I'd put it down to their commitment to the KO punch or lack of as to why they generally don't get them. Probably why Wilder generates so much power is because he's the only Pro willing to sacrifice all boxing technique for every right hand he throws, nearly.

        With regards to Fury's recovery the body does heal well but ******* and obesity do cause some irreverisble damage, the extent is what matters it's the cliche prevention is better than cure. The damage is unmeasurable and could be insignificant but if there was a potential flaw in Fury this is where I'd go looking escpecially as Wilder is suppose to be more athletic compare every other HW in the first place, seems common sense to increase the pace on Fury regardless.
        Fury has always had excellent stamina though, especially for his body and appearance. It's what makes him an anomaly. But I don't really think he's even been tested to the body, has he?

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        • STREET CLEANER
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          #94
          The Hearns thought that they were holding all the cards and that they were in control. The only thing they do is cry now.

          It is true that Wilder only has a puncher's chance but they fear that. So much for taking less money to fight in the UK and now it seems that AJ is coming to NY as the original plan always was.

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          • lfc19titles
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            #95
            Agreed

            It’s why wilder is ducking Joshua, his team are also making him avoid Joshua as they all know joshua ends wilders career

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            • FreezeIzGawd
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              #96
              Okay like I said this was Eddie just a few months ago.....



              Then according to HIM he offered 65-35 but when they refused and said we are going to do the rematch he said HE WOULD CONSIDER OFFERING 60/40 but HE NEVER FORMALLY DID!!!

              These are his words NOT MINE!!!



              Oh and like I said that offer was not made until after FURY and WILDER were ordered to REMATCH by the WBC!

              C'MON SON!

              How does that sound?
              Last edited by FreezeIzGawd; 02-04-2019, 12:23 PM.

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              • AdonisCreed
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                #97
                Still don't know why they are worried about Wilder. Everything is going to get sorted out one way or another. Either the fight will be too big not to make or somebody will eventually lose their title end of story. And Wilder isn't very technically sound AT ALL but to say he can't fight is dumb!! Those KO's say otherwise.

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                • REDEEMER
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by AdonisCreed
                  Still don't know why they are worried about Wilder. Everything is going to get sorted out one way or another. Either the fight will be too big not to make or somebody will eventually lose their title end of story. And Wilder isn't very technically sound AT ALL but to say he can't fight is dumb!! Those KO's say otherwise.

                  Why are they worried about Wilder? Wilder can punch but he can't box is what he alluded to . Only ones that seem worried from my experience in here are only the actual Wilder fans who want Wilder to hold out for more money .

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                  • Thuglife Nelo
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                    #99
                    The Hearns know the network-rights-culture and the obvious interferences with their investment across the pond. A lot has to do with that they simply wouldn’t be able to accept the 50million. There are more long term profits and worth with AJ and his investors in the UK, so I’m actuality 50 million (though a great offer) is highly risky and wouldn’t be able to be made because Hearn’s long term goals with AJ and their platforms aren’t disclosed with sales detail. In other words, just like Top Rank, they manage matchmaking with the best profits and less risk. Even GBP does this too.

                    This is why PBC has the best matchups. It’s all boxing, I don’t know why fans have rivalries with networks, it’s just the reality, and I watch them all. This weekend’s card wasn’t that bad at all. Got to see Valdez, Commey, Kova. Ehh.. it is what it is.

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                    • Thuglife Nelo
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by REDEEMER
                      Why are they worried about Wilder? Wilder can punch but he can't box is what he alluded to . Only ones that seem worried from my experience in here are only the actual Wilder fans who want Wilder to hold out for more money .
                      Why would Wilder fans be worried? Wilder fans been wanting the fight. The older a boxer (though not so much with Heavyweights), but getting older isn’t going to help Wilder. Though there’s a flip side to this because Wilder gets better every fight. Just like Klitchko seeing an opening down the middle past 40 years of age to drop AJ, the odds highly favor Wilder to do good with AJ. Klitchko didnt even have leaping back ability or speed as Wilder to get away from dangerous situations. Wilder’s speed is so underrated. Wilder is the best example of prize fighter who has always dropped basic fundamentals in an actual fight. His mean machine gets the best of him at times, but it works to his advantage.

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