Comments Thread For: Team Miller: Joshua Talks Moving Forward, But Not A Done Deal

[Kezzer]

I’m not sure what I’d hoped for in regards to AJ’s next fight, Hearn clearly doesn’t want Fury near his man and I get the impression he’d prefer Wilder over Fury yet their is clear reluctance from Hearn to make that fight too.

So this year we get AJ vs Miller and Pulev not terrible but could be better yet I suppose it could be far worse, Whyte and Usyk will have to wait until 2020 I guess and their is the small issue Wilder aint gonna happen any time soon ffs.

The one fight I really wanted I suppose was the Wilder fight yet I don’t believe Wilder will beat Fury in the rematch and upon Fury collecting the green belt we’ll never see the Wilder AJ fight, maybe in 2021 we’ll get AJ vs Fury doubtful still.

And still some people ignore what’s actually going on in the world. To clarify a few points:

Wilder has been offered a 40% split, a rematch in America. He has not accepted. The offer would have been his biggest payday and been for all belts, likely to include ring magazine.

Fury has been offered a 40% split, he has rejected. It would have been for four of the five belts, and likely ring magazine.

Whyte has rejected a figure in excess of $7 million (we don’t know exact number). It would have been for four of the five belts.

No-one can claim Joshua or Hearn hasn’t made good offers. The fury/wilder offer is hard to argue is a good deal for either of them, in fact even the die hard wilder fans were arguing for a 40% split when the negiotiations were back n forth.

No idea where Pulev came into the conversation for you, I haven’t seen him in any discussions about a fight this year.

Usyk in 2020 (or 2019) could be a great matchup so I wouldn’t turn your nose up at that.


Personally I’ve said all along that I want Joshua to fight Wilder, Fury, Ortiz, Whyte, Miller and Usyk at the moment - I wasn’t fussed what order.

The fact joshua does continue to fight the best/top end of the division is a testament to him. Since winning the title his weakest opposition hAs been Molina and Brezeale. Otherwise he has taken on opponents others, like Wilder, have avoided - in Klitschko, Takam, Parker and Povetkin. Compare that to others who own belts and you will find he is right up there.

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Wilder has been offered a 40% split, a rematch in America. He has not accepted.

You have no idea what Hearn really offered and what he offered is irrelevant anyway because he offered it when he already knew Wilder was fighting a Fury rematch.

The offer would have been his biggest payday and been for all belts, likely to include ring magazine.

Wrong. Wilder will make more in the Fury rematch then he would have made fighting Joshua in the UK.

As for the Ring belt, it's absolutely worthless. Who cares about that? De La Hoya owns the belt now and changed all the rules so that the belt has nothing to do with being lineal champion.

[Ake-Dawg]

And still some people ignore what’s actually going on in the world. To clarify a few points:

Wilder has been offered a 40% split, a rematch in America. He has not accepted. The offer would have been his biggest payday and been for all belts, likely to include ring magazine.

Fury has been offered a 40% split, he has rejected. It would have been for four of the five belts, and likely ring magazine.

Whyte has rejected a figure in excess of $7 million (we don’t know exact number). It would have been for four of the five belts.

No-one can claim Joshua or Hearn hasn’t made good offers. The fury/wilder offer is hard to argue is a good deal for either of them, in fact even the die hard wilder fans were arguing for a 40% split when the negiotiations were back n forth.

No idea where Pulev came into the conversation for you, I haven’t seen him in any discussions about a fight this year.

Usyk in 2020 (or 2019) could be a great matchup so I wouldn’t turn your nose up at that.


Personally I’ve said all along that I want Joshua to fight Wilder, Fury, Ortiz, Whyte, Miller and Usyk at the moment - I wasn’t fussed what order.

The fact joshua does continue to fight the best/top end of the division is a testament to him. Since winning the title his weakest opposition hAs been Molina and Brezeale. Otherwise he has taken on opponents others, like Wilder, have avoided - in Klitschko, Takam, Parker and Povetkin. Compare that to others who own belts and you will find he is right up there.

Are you referring to the statement Hearn made to the media that if Wilder or Fury want 40% they can have it? Otherwise that's the only mention of 40% I have heard of.

As for the Whyte offer, didn't Hearn say it was 4M pounds which Whyte said was less than what he made versus Chisora.

I wanted the Miller fight over the Whyte fight so I'm pleased with that. However now is not the time to start championing the whole Joshua fights the best rhetoric. Whyte was his 1st choice and if he is as good as you guys said he was and as popular as you said he was, he deserved a split not an appearance fee.

[Kezzer]

Are you referring to the statement Hearn made to the media that if Wilder or Fury want 40% they can have it? Otherwise that's the only mention of 40% I have heard of.

As for the Whyte offer, didn't Hearn say it was 4M pounds which Whyte said was less than what he made versus Chisora.

I wanted the Miller fight over the Whyte fight so I'm pleased with that. However now is not the time to start championing the whole Joshua fights the best rhetoric. Whyte was his 1st choice and if he is as good as you guys said he was and as popular as you said he was, he deserved a split not an appearance fee.

I’ll let you just type in google because those splits to both wilder and fury; aswell as offers to Whyte (which there were multiple, not just a first offer) are widely in the press. Whyte latest offer we only known is “in excess of”.

And yes I will champion that joshua because he does fight the best and has proven is time after time. You can’t claim others like Wilder for example are anywhere near it despite being in the game much longer. Here’s a reminder:

Whyte - fought as a challenger to Whyte before he even held a belt, many others would have ducked.

Martin - accepted a deal where he was paid c.10% of the purse to have a shot at a title. Wilder had the same opportunity (to unify) but wasn’t willing to offer $ to Martin to get a fight done.

Brezeale - unbeaten at the time, c. Top20 opponent.

Molina - late replacement, arguably easiest fight since holding title but he had wobbled wilder previously.

Klitschko - arguably #1 in the world at the time.

Takam - late mandatory replacement. Top10 opponent who had been stopped only once.

Parker - unified against at the top widely recognised as #3 in the division.

Povetkin - again, widely regarded as #3, or at least top5, within the division.

Miller (if happens) - Unbeaten, most peoples Top10 and some rate at top5 in the world.


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Compare that to wilder or fury and you will see absolutely no question that Joshua has fought the best. He’s still young and has more to fight and I’m sure he will in time but five fights in a row against Top10.

If you take boxrec now, he is obviously #1 himself but then is the following (which obviously excludes klitschko due to retirement):

#4 Whyte - already beaten
#5 Povetkin - already beaten
#6 Miller - proposed fight
#8 Brezeale - already beaten
#11 Parker - already beaten


In the same Top10 (outside themselves) Fury and Wilder have beaten one fighter between them.

[Iamsmoke89]

I’ll let you just type in google because those splits to both wilder and fury; aswell as offers to Whyte (which there were multiple, not just a first offer) are widely in the press. Whyte latest offer we only known is “in excess of”.

And yes I will champion that joshua because he does fight the best and has proven is time after time. You can’t claim others like Wilder for example are anywhere near it despite being in the game much longer. Here’s a reminder:

Whyte - fought as a challenger to Whyte before he even held a belt, many others would have ducked.

Martin - accepted a deal where he was paid c.10% of the purse to have a shot at a title. Wilder had the same opportunity (to unify) but wasn’t willing to offer $ to Martin to get a fight done.

Brezeale - unbeaten at the time, c. Top20 opponent.

Molina - late replacement, arguably easiest fight since holding title but he had wobbled wilder previously.

Klitschko - arguably #1 in the world at the time.

Takam - late mandatory replacement. Top10 opponent who had been stopped only once.

Parker - unified against at the top widely recognised as #3 in the division.

Povetkin - again, widely regarded as #3, or at least top5, within the division.

Miller (if happens) - Unbeaten, most peoples Top10 and some rate at top5 in the world.


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Compare that to wilder or fury and you will see absolutely no question that Joshua has fought the best. He’s still young and has more to fight and I’m sure he will in time but five fights in a row against Top10.

If you take boxrec now, he is obviously #1 himself but then is the following (which obviously excludes klitschko due to retirement):

#4 Whyte - already beaten
#5 Povetkin - already beaten
#6 Miller - proposed fight
#8 Brezeale - already beaten
#11 Parker - already beaten


In the same Top10 (outside themselves) Fury and Wilder have beaten one fighter between them.

Official aj nut gagger sorry dude

[IMDAZED]

And still some people ignore what’s actually going on in the world. To clarify a few points:

Wilder has been offered a 40% split, a rematch in America. He has not accepted. The offer would have been his biggest payday and been for all belts, likely to include ring magazine.

Fury has been offered a 40% split, he has rejected. It would have been for four of the five belts, and likely ring magazine.

Whyte has rejected a figure in excess of $7 million (we don’t know exact number). It would have been for four of the five belts.

No-one can claim Joshua or Hearn hasn’t made good offers. The fury/wilder offer is hard to argue is a good deal for either of them, in fact even the die hard wilder fans were arguing for a 40% split when the negiotiations were back n forth.

No idea where Pulev came into the conversation for you, I haven’t seen him in any discussions about a fight this year.

Usyk in 2020 (or 2019) could be a great matchup so I wouldn’t turn your nose up at that.


Personally I’ve said all along that I want Joshua to fight Wilder, Fury, Ortiz, Whyte, Miller and Usyk at the moment - I wasn’t fussed what order.

The fact joshua does continue to fight the best/top end of the division is a testament to him. Since winning the title his weakest opposition hAs been Molina and Brezeale. Otherwise he has taken on opponents others, like Wilder, have avoided - in Klitschko, Takam, Parker and Povetkin. Compare that to others who own belts and you will find he is right up there.

Wilder has been offered a 40% split? You saw the contract?

[Kiowhatta]

There are virtually no names left on the contender list other than Miller and Ortiz.

People may yell and scream in vain about Whyte deserving his shot, but we all know deserving of a shot is not enough in this business - ask Eleider Alvarez who waited two years as a No#1 contender, and still only got his shot with a bit of luck.
There are some HW's out there - Hughie Fury, Zhilei Zhang, Andy Ruiz Jr, who for whatever reason haven't gotten their shot, but the fans want to see AJ in the ring with an alleged big hitter like Miller.

I say allegedly because it's one thing to knock out a few past it's and could have beens - It's another to knock out a supremely fit, confident, powerful unified champion who has already proven his worth.

[Phenom]

I’ll let you just type in google because those splits to both wilder and fury; aswell as offers to Whyte (which there were multiple, not just a first offer) are widely in the press. Whyte latest offer we only known is “in excess of”.

And yes I will champion that joshua because he does fight the best and has proven is time after time. You can’t claim others like Wilder for example are anywhere near it despite being in the game much longer. Here’s a reminder:

Whyte - fought as a challenger to Whyte before he even held a belt, many others would have ducked.

Martin - accepted a deal where he was paid c.10% of the purse to have a shot at a title. Wilder had the same opportunity (to unify) but wasn’t willing to offer $ to Martin to get a fight done.

Brezeale - unbeaten at the time, c. Top20 opponent.

Molina - late replacement, arguably easiest fight since holding title but he had wobbled wilder previously.

Klitschko - arguably #1 in the world at the time.

Takam - late mandatory replacement. Top10 opponent who had been stopped only once.

Parker - unified against at the top widely recognised as #3 in the division.

Povetkin - again, widely regarded as #3, or at least top5, within the division.

Miller (if happens) - Unbeaten, most peoples Top10 and some rate at top5 in the world.


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Compare that to wilder or fury and you will see absolutely no question that Joshua has fought the best. He’s still young and has more to fight and I’m sure he will in time but five fights in a row against Top10.

If you take boxrec now, he is obviously #1 himself but then is the following (which obviously excludes klitschko due to retirement):

#4 Whyte - already beaten
#5 Povetkin - already beaten
#6 Miller - proposed fight
#8 Brezeale - already beaten
#11 Parker - already beaten


In the same Top10 (outside themselves) Fury and Wilder have beaten one fighter between them.

Long ass blow job ...

This is **** riding on whole new level smh

[EnglishOxide]

Wilder has been offered a 40% split? You saw the contract?

Wilder and Fury haven't even denied this claim and it's been out in the open for about 2 weeks.

Perhaps a contract wasn't drawn up because neither fighter asked for one, but the 40% is common knowledge by now.

Why are you pretending it isn't true when the fighters themselves haven't denied it? What do you know that they don't?

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Wilder and Fury haven't even denied this claim and it's been out in the knowledge for about 2 weeks.

Perhaps a contract wasn't drawn up because neither fighter asked for one, but the 40% is common knowledge by now.

Why are you pretending it isn't true when the fighters themselves haven't denied it? What do you know that they don't?

If Wilder and Fury denied every lie Hearn told, there'd be no time left to train for or promote their fight. They're ignoring Hearn. Period.