True or False: Prime Roy Jones jr was on another level than Prime Floyd?

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  • The Big Dunn
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    #81
    Roy in his prime was more athletic. Floyd in his prime was the better all around fighter. Roy did more flashy things while Floyd did the more technically sound things.

    Roy would be Prime Shaq while Floyd would be Prime Tim Duncan.

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      #82
      It is true. Roy was more spectacular than Floyd.

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      • Sun_Tzu
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        #83
        Roy in his prime is the best fighter I've ever seen. There were no close or debatable fights from the time he turned probably until he came back down from HW unless you want to count the first Griffin fight which gets blown out of proportion because Roy went years with out losing a round.

        This topic is all about who you like better on the end. They were both great champions and ATGs but there is no world in which Floyd was a better fighter than Roy in his prime.

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          #84
          Originally posted by Boxing Goat
          Nonsense. Roy also beat ATG Hopkins when they were both close to prime years and went on to unify the LHW title, incl beating Tarver when he was already shot and beat a heavyweight for a title. The undefeated record isn't everything. And Floyd really lost in his prime to Castillo and Roy didn't lose til he was 35.
          1993 Hopkins is not the same Hopkins in 2001. So we are all going to go ahead and lie about this ? OK.

          He didn't beat Tarver. Traver won that first fight imo. What happen in the rematch? What happen with Glen Johnson? What happen in their third Traver fight ? What happen with Calzaghe?

          Hopkins resume and Floyd is way better.

          If you giving Floyd a lose to castillo then give traver the win for the first fight !

          Come on now get off of that.

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            #85
            Originally posted by JcLazyX210
            1993 Hopkins is not the same Hopkins in 2001. So we are all going to go ahead and lie about this ? OK.

            He didn't beat Tarver. Traver won that first fight imo. What happen in the rematch? What happen with Glen Johnson? What happen in their third Traver fight ? What happen with Calzaghe?

            Hopkins resume and Floyd is way better.

            If you giving Floyd a lose to castillo then give traver the win for the first fight !

            Come on now get off of that.

            why? roy didnt lose. floyd did. lets not make false equivalencies

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              #86
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              Roy in his prime was more athletic. Floyd in his prime was the better all around fighter. Roy did more flashy things while Floyd did the more technically sound things.

              Roy would be Prime Shaq while Floyd would be Prime Tim Duncan.
              I would take Tim Duncan over Shaq. More rings and better FT %.

              Does anybody notice Roy didn't do any of those flashy things when he actually fought a skilled fighter? Not a weight struggled James Toney.

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                #87
                Originally posted by JcLazyX210
                1993 Hopkins is not the same Hopkins in 2001. So we are all going to go ahead and lie about this ? OK.

                He didn't beat Tarver. Traver won that first fight imo. What happen in the rematch? What happen with Glen Johnson? What happen in their third Traver fight ? What happen with Calzaghe?

                Hopkins resume and Floyd is way better.

                If you giving Floyd a lose to castillo then give traver the win for the first fight !

                Come on now get off of that.
                I thought your name reminded me of someone very unintelligent and now I remember debating you before. Now I recall who you are. You aren't worth my time. Too...too.....oh, nvm.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Boxing Goat
                  I thought your name reminded me of someone very unintelligent and now I remember debating you before. Now I recall who you are. You aren't worth my time. Too...too.....oh, nvm.
                  Woah! yes use that old race tactic just because somebody doesn't agree with your standpoint they have to be dumb. This single parent household mindset got to go. It's for the women and birds.

                  FYI you dont know a thing about me. It's time to get off the computer and enter the real world.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by JcLazyX210
                    1993 Hopkins is not the same Hopkins in 2001. So we are all going to go ahead and lie about this ? OK.

                    He didn't beat Tarver. Traver won that first fight imo. What happen in the rematch? What happen with Glen Johnson? What happen in their third Traver fight ? What happen with Calzaghe?

                    Hopkins resume and Floyd is way better.

                    If you giving Floyd a lose to castillo then give traver the win for the first fight !

                    Come on now get off of that.

                    We are talking about fighters in their prime.

                    Regardless about Tarver and Glen Johnson, Roy literally moved all the way down from heavyweight back to 175, where he was never the same again. It could have been the result of a cut that was too much (obviously cutting too quickly/too much weight/and or improperly is a big no-no), as well as the fact he was getting older. When he fought Tarver he was already 32? about to be 33. Cutting weight in your 20s is different from your 30s, especially when it's a lot of weight.

                    Against Calzaghe ---- he was already 37, about to be 38.

                    Roy wasn't in his prime against any of these fighters. Part of it was aging, part of it was a bad cut at a relatively old age.

                    Roy at his best would have definitely beaten Glen & Tarver.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by JcLazyX210
                      Woah! yes use that old race tactic just because somebody doesn't agree with your standpoint they have to be dumb. This single parent household mindset got to go. It's for the women and birds.

                      FYI you dont know a thing about me. It's time to get off the computer and enter the real world.
                      Lol! What does race have to do with anything I said?

                      Aren't Roy and Floyd both black fighters?

                      I meant that you're a dumb f@ck. That's why I can't talk any sense into you. And I remember trying before now and it went nowhere.

                      I said Roy was better at his peak and you went into resume's like a dumb f@ck speaking dumb f@cking things. I just don't have time for your racist, ignorant mind. Go get drunk on your 40 some more or something.

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