Who do you think is the current #1 welterweight?

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  • BIG GUNZ
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    #1

    Who do you think is the current #1 welterweight?

    Who do you think it is?
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    Thurman
    6.45%
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    Spence
    35.48%
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    Crawford
    37.10%
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    Pacquiao
    19.35%
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    other
    1.61%
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  • chrisJS
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    Crawford is the best fighter at the weight but I think in the old days with one champion I think #1 spot would be vacant now. Spence hasn't done enough, Crawford at 147 hasn't, whereas Thurman had two big wins a few years ago but went away for a while and likely gets beaten handily by those two.

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    • b Murphington
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      I don’t think there is a clear #1 at the weight. However, out of ththe options, I will say Spence is the best. He still has to prove it, although, I think he beats everyone at welterweight.

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      • techliam
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        The division is so poor, and the top fighters have not fought each other, barring Thurman/Garcia

        The only Welterweight I would consider having any momentum is Porter, whose narrow loss to Thurman meant we wouldn’t know who would win a rematch.

        As for the rest of the division, we have:

        Spence - only 1 decent win which was neck and neck until the stoppage. Up for debate as to whether Brook’s injury was related to the Golovkin bearing prior. Spence’s run has been lacklustre since.

        Thurman - simply hasn’t been active. Gained huge momentum from the wins over Porter (close) and Garcia, yet injury and inactivity minimised it.

        Crawford - yet to really establish himself at 147, but has shown some promise. His promotional opportunities seem fairly limited though.

        On the lower tier, you’ve got Garcia and Pacquiao, though Manny is more of a wildcard.

        It’s a very shallow and disappointing division, considering that prior to 2015, this was the premier division

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        • Madison Boxing
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          Keith one time thurman. Im not interested in crawford and spences eye test wtf have either of them done. Same guys hyping them were the same guys hyping charlos

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          • redmish
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            Crawford or Spence. If pushed I would go for Crawford but I wouldn't be confident.

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            • chrisJS
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              #7
              Originally posted by Madison boxing
              Keith one time thurman. Im not interested in crawford and spences eye test wtf have either of them done. Same guys hyping them were the same guys hyping charlos
              Not entirely. I think the Charlos are garbage but have been on Crawford’s bandwagon since before he was 2014 Fighter of the year. He’s since became the undisputed champion which alongside Usyk makes him the only fighter to do so in over a decade.

              A lot of people acknowledged both achievements and that are tangible achievements that help add credence to the eye tests.

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                Originally posted by techliam
                The division is so poor, and the top fighters have not fought each other, barring Thurman/Garcia

                The only Welterweight I would consider having any momentum is Porter, whose narrow loss to Thurman meant we wouldn’t know who would win a rematch.

                As for the rest of the division, we have:

                Spence - only 1 decent win which was neck and neck until the stoppage. Up for debate as to whether Brook’s injury was related to the Golovkin bearing prior. Spence’s run has been lacklustre since.

                Thurman - simply hasn’t been active. Gained huge momentum from the wins over Porter (close) and Garcia, yet injury and inactivity minimised it.

                Crawford - yet to really establish himself at 147, but has shown some promise. His promotional opportunities seem fairly limited though.

                On the lower tier, you’ve got Garcia and Pacquiao, though Manny is more of a wildcard.

                It’s a very shallow and disappointing division, considering that prior to 2015, this was the premier division
                I agree with a lot of what you’re saying, but you need to admit that it is a talent rich division. They aren’t all fighting each other, no, but there is potential there.

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                • Madison Boxing
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by chrisJS
                  Not entirely. I think the Charlos are garbage but have been on Crawford’s bandwagon since before he was 2014 Fighter of the year. He’s since became the undisputed champion which alongside Usyk makes him the only fighter to do so in over a decade.

                  A lot of people acknowledged both achievements and that are tangible achievements that help add credence to the eye tests.
                  Come on man hes not beat anyone. He was undisputed in the crappest division i think theres ever been

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                  • chrisJS
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                    Originally posted by Madison boxing
                    Come on man hes not beat anyone. He was undisputed in the crappest division i think theres ever been
                    I don’t think he’s beaten any greats but not many active fighters have. The Gamboa fight was considered close to a pick’em and I guarantee if Crawford hadn’t became a p4p player certain people would put it into perspective as being an excellent win at that time. Also I remember so many folks claiming Crawford was ducking Postol and he’d lose that one. He shut the dude out. Is Gamboa at 135 vastly inferior to Brook at 147 or Rigondeaux at 130? Is Postol vastly inferior to Walters or Linares?

                    You can only beat what’s in front of you for the titles and being undisputed is an excellent achievement. Golovkin has a weaker division for years and never did it for example. Sure, we can say why he didn’t but the fact is that he didn’t.

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