The reaction to Thurman/Lopez Round 7 exposes CLEAR hypocrisy around here.

[Combat Talk Radio]

So...Thurman eats flush shots, constantly on the back foot, taking MAJOR damage...and people on here be like

It didnt get stopped and you lost. Only got yourself to blame for not finishing the job.

Had the ref stopped it, that would've been a shambles.

No way was Keith that hurt. True, Lopez was pouring it on him but not to the point that a stoppage would've been warranted.

He wasn't hurt enough for a stoppage.

Had the fight been stopped it would have been an outrage.

Keith was hurt but not to the point for a stoppage

If Lopez would have been more accurate with his punches he could have finished him. He should have gathered himself and trapped Thurman against the ropes finished the job! He had the 7th and first part of the 8th round to close the show he just didn't get it done.

He was hurt enough for a VERY bad stoppage with the way he was reacting to shots and how long they went uncontested but it would have been horrible and a robbery.

We’ve seen stoppages for less.

Josesito just didn’t know how to close there.

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A better fighter would have closed the show there as Thurman was beyond gone.

How can you blame the ref when you had a full round to finish the dude. It is not like it was 10s left in the round when you land the money shot. You had plenty of time and went head hunting. The fact that Thurman recovered and won the fight is a testament that being allowed to fight was good judgment on the ref's part.

All y'all should be ashamed of yourselves.

You got Manny MF'n Pacquiao who lands LESS flush shots on Jeff Horn in Round 9, and all I heard was "ref should have stopped it" - yet Josesito was beating the living HELL out of Thurman in round seven and it's like "he wasn't hurt"? Even Thurman said he was hurt!

Why didn't people say, "Manny should have closed the show"? Why is Lopez not getting the credit that Manny did for what in my eyes was an equivalent performance against a superior fighter?


This is the problem with some of you. Hypocrites. Inconsistent.

[GhostofDempsey]

So...Thurman eats flush shots, constantly on the back foot, taking MAJOR damage...and people on here be like



















All y'all should be ashamed of yourselves.

You got Manny MF'n Pacquiao who lands LESS flush shots on Jeff Horn in Round 9, and all I heard was "ref should have stopped it" - yet Josesito was beating the living HELL out of Thurman in round seven and it's like "he wasn't hurt"? Even Thurman said he was hurt!

Why didn't people say, "Manny should have closed the show"? Why is Lopez not getting the credit that Manny did for what in my eyes was an equivalent performance against a superior fighter?


This is the problem with some of you. Hypocrites. Inconsistent.

Did ref warn Thurman he was going to stop the fight if he didn’t show him something? Horn was clearly more hurt than Thurman.

[Heavyhands420]

Agreed. That type of round takes time off ones life. The fact you brought uo horn is perfect as everyone complaining about lopez not finishing blame the ref for the manny fight. If it was anyone else it would have been stopped. I agree woth Lopez that if the roles were reversed he would have been tko’ed. Props to josesisto for rising to the occasion and giving him a test, nobody should be speaking ill of him or hos skills from behind a keyboard.

[Madison Boxing]

So...Thurman eats flush shots, constantly on the back foot, taking MAJOR damage...and people on here be like



















All y'all should be ashamed of yourselves.

You got Manny MF'n Pacquiao who lands LESS flush shots on Jeff Horn in Round 9, and all I heard was "ref should have stopped it" - yet Josesito was beating the living HELL out of Thurman in round seven and it's like "he wasn't hurt"? Even Thurman said he was hurt!

Why didn't people say, "Manny should have closed the show"? Why is Lopez not getting the credit that Manny did for what in my eyes was an equivalent performance against a superior fighter?


This is the problem with some of you. Hypocrites. Inconsistent.

I never said they should have stopped the horn fight?

[NearHypnos]

So...Thurman eats flush shots, constantly on the back foot, taking MAJOR damage...and people on here be like





















All y'all should be ashamed of yourselves.

You got Manny MF'n Pacquiao who lands LESS flush shots on Jeff Horn in Round 9, and all I heard was "ref should have stopped it" - yet Josesito was beating the living HELL out of Thurman in round seven and it's like "he wasn't hurt"? Even Thurman said he was hurt!

Why didn't people say, "Manny should have closed the show"? Why is Lopez not getting the credit that Manny did for what in my eyes was an equivalent performance against a superior fighter?


This is the problem with some of you. Hypocrites. Inconsistent.

I don’t recall screaming for a stoppage in the Pac fight. 10-8 round, maybe...sure. But relax.

I didn’t realize Lopez lost a very contested/controversial decision though... must have missed that part of his performance last night.

Thurman never left his feet and Josesito kept only landing single shots and allowed Thurman to move. Not many fights get stopped off single clear punches while the other man is moving. The ref didnt have to say anything or take a closer look. Thurman was still getting away and creating a ton of space

Josesito didnt know how to close and lost the rest of the fight.

Pac should have won that fight without needing a stoppage but that’s my opinion on that.


You need to relax, dude. What’s got you so upset on a nice sunday afternoon?

[Citizen Koba]

So...Thurman eats flush shots, constantly on the back foot, taking MAJOR damage...and people on here be like



















All y'all should be ashamed of yourselves.

You got Manny MF'n Pacquiao who lands LESS flush shots on Jeff Horn in Round 9, and all I heard was "ref should have stopped it" - yet Josesito was beating the living HELL out of Thurman in round seven and it's like "he wasn't hurt"? Even Thurman said he was hurt!

Why didn't people say, "Manny should have closed the show"? Why is Lopez not getting the credit that Manny did for what in my eyes was an equivalent performance against a superior fighter?


This is the problem with some of you. Hypocrites. Inconsistent.

Yeah. Kid you not, I know at least two of the guys you mentioned are absolutely not Pacquiao fans. What you actually need to do is find the guys who said what you're claiming and then post their quotes on the two fights side by side. Then you also got to make sure you ain't guilty of the same sort of hypocrisy... you ain't one of 'em dudes who criticise other fighters then find reasons it don't count when your faves do the same thing are ya? As long as that ain't you, you're doing a good job. Rooting out hypocrites is God's work, man.





atheism rules!!

[Combat Talk Radio]

Did ref warn Thurman he was going to stop the fight if he didn’t show him something? Horn was clearly more hurt than Thurman.

Thurman HIMSELF said he was hurt.

Horn was NOT hurt, the ref was trigger finger. Steve Willis just happens to not be a trigger finger ref. Let's just be clear here - Horn dominated the 10th. Hurt fighters don't do that.

Yeah. Kid you not, I know at least two of the guys you mentioned are absolutely not Pacquiao fans. What you actually need to do is find the guys who said what you're claiming and then post their quotes on the two fights side by side. Then you also got to make sure you ain't guilty of the same sort of hypocrisy... you ain't one of 'em dudes who criticise other fighters then find reasons it don't count when your faves do the same thing are ya? As long as that ain't you, you're doing a good job. Rooting out hypocrites is God's work, man.

My point here isn't even Manny. It's Lopez. People criticizing him for not closing yet praising Manny for his one round of dominance despite him also failing to close. Why aren't you praising Lopez for giving Thurman that work? Why am I not hearing that the ref should have stepped in? Why am I not hearing that Thurman MIGHT have gotten favoritism?

instead it's just excuses: "oh he was off a layoff" "oh he was injured" etc etc. And why wouldn't Thurman have been stopped when he wasn't effectively defending himself for damn near 2 minutes? Did you SEE his head repeatedly snapping back? You want to talk "running"? That was running. Core definition of.

I just want CONSISTENCY, because to my eyes both fights came really down to one round. So either

(A) Manny put on a great performance and got robbed because of that one round, thus Lopez put on a great performance and got robbed because of that one round. Or

(B) Manny didn't close the show in the ONE round of dominance and deserved to lose, thus Lopez didn't close the show in the ONE round of dominance and deserved to lose.

[NearHypnos]

Yeah. Kid you not, I know at least two of the guys you mentioned are absolutely not Pacquiao fans. What you actually need to do is find the guys who said what you're claiming and then post their quotes on the two fights side by side. Then you also got to make sure you ain't guilty of the same sort of hypocrisy... you ain't one of 'em dudes who criticise other fighters then find reasons it don't count when your faves do the same thing are ya? As long as that ain't you, you're doing a good job. Rooting out hypocrites is God's work, man.





atheism rules!!

Hard to call people hypocrites for thinking one fight should have been stopped over another. Fights are different and so are the fighters and how they were reacting.

We’ve seen stoppages for less but that doesn’t make it right. We’ve also seen stoppages for less where it was right.

I don’t remember the Horn and Pac fight enough to use as a comparison...

But we’ll say Thurman was definitely more hurt than, say...Angulo in the Canelo fight.

But Angulo was getting destroyed for an entire fight and Thurman wasn’t.

It’s not that simple... this is just a super bitter post.

Josesito shouldnt get a bad stoppage just because he hurt Thurman. Being hurt doesnt equal stoppage.

[Citizen Koba]

Hard to call people hypocrites for thinking one fight should have been stopped over another. Fights are different and so are the fighters and how they were reacting.

We’ve seen stoppages for less but that doesn’t make it right. We’ve also seen stoppages for less where it was right.

I don’t remember the Horn and Pac fight enough to use as a comparison...

But we’ll say Thurman was definitely more hurt than, say...Angulo in the Canelo fight.

But Angulo was getting destroyed for an entire fight and Thurman wasn’t.

It’s not that simple... this is just a super bitter post.

Josesito shouldnt get a bad stoppage just because he hurt Thurman. Being hurt doesnt equal stoppage.

My humour ain't to everyone's taste, man. It's the TS I was making fun of.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Hard to call people hypocrites for thinking one fight should have been stopped over another. Fights are different and so are the fighters and how they were reacting.

Thurman was RUNNING. Clearly RUNNING. Hands down. Not throwing back. Eating FLUSH shots to the face, head snapping back, for damn near two minutes. I don't even think Thurman landed anything important in return. Plus Thurman himself admitting he was hurt bad. Had that been Lopez the fight would have been stopped after the fourth punch.

Manny landed clean shots in Round 9, but Horn was still defending, still throwing back, RESPONDING. And all of that happened in one minute of Round 9. Round 10 Horn was right back in Manny's face, fighting smart, won the round decisively.

So yes, they are different.

IN one, Thurman was NOT protecting himself and eating flush shots for damn near two minutes. In the other, Horn was still defending, still throwing, in one minute of the round.

People are just inconsistent.