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  • #71
    Hair is a scientifically valid sample type 4 clenbuterol testing in the Canelo case. Yes there are variations w/ hair color. However they measure at picogram concentrations. A picogram is equal to one trillionth of a gram. This is ultra trace analysis by a WADA accredited lab.

    Conte said this, one trillionth of a gram

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    • #72
      Originally posted by Shape up View Post
      For the second part, samples of 66 Mexican soccer players were analyzed. In 89% ofthese volunteers, clenbuterol was detectable in their hair at concentrations between 0.02 and 1.90 pg/mg. A comparison of bothparts showed no statistical difference between sub-the****utic application and contamination

      This was contamination, the same as Canelo claims, 89% is massive, these soccer players were not given clen, remember conte said they can test for the smallest of small amounts, this is a game changer I think was his comment
      that was only a couple of studies, it requires a lot more than that to assure that 100% are always going to come positive on ultra low traces...
      so conte is lying or does not know what he is talking about ??
      he even mentions that he has been in contact to vada for this case and talked to them about the variations and how the negative tests are clearing canelo, if this was not true vada could have already called his lies... he doesnt need to put his name and word out there for canelo cuz he has no dog in this fight, he does it cuz he clearly knows what he is talking about...
      acording to him SNAC is doing close to 1 million a month, thats based on athletes who trust on him for conditioning, why will he risk his reputation(knowledge wise) for canelo if he wasnt sure ??

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      • #73
        Originally posted by Shape up View Post
        Hair is a scientifically valid sample type 4 clenbuterol testing in the Canelo case. Yes there are variations w/ hair color. However they measure at picogram concentrations. A picogram is equal to one trillionth of a gram. This is ultra trace analysis by a WADA accredited lab.

        Conte said this, one trillionth of a gram
        Conte also said this : "There are differences in the methods of analysis used for urine & hair. If Canelo were dosing daily (30-100 mcgs) w/ clenbuterol in 2 week cycles then hair testing would detect this activity. Eating a meat meal w/ trace amounts of clenbuterol may not be detected in a hair."

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        • #74
          I agree. It's the wild wild west right now with Mexican Ranchers injecting their livestock. For most of the Mexican population it's not a big deal.

          But Mexican athletes need to take precaution. I have no idea how they should though since the entire country could potentially have tainted meat.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by icha View Post
            Conte also said this : "There are differences in the methods of analysis used for urine & hair. If Canelo were dosing daily (30-100 mcgs) w/ clenbuterol in 2 week cycles then hair testing would detect this activity. Eating a meat meal w/ trace amounts of clenbuterol may not be detected in a hair."
            For the second part, samples of 66 Mexican soccer players were analyzed. In 89% ofthese volunteers, clenbuterol was detectable in their hair at concentrations between 0.02 and 1.90 pg/mg. A comparison of bothparts showed no statistical difference between sub-the****utic application and contamination

            So 66 athletes that were not given clen in 2014 had their hair tested and 89 percent came back positive yet here we are 5 years down the track and you think the testing is worse, really, conte on one hand says its so accurate but then it isnt, more like he had a golden handshake from goldenboy to rectify canelos image, you forget the guys running this test are specialists in this field aswell with no bias, conte has already shown he is willing to be dirty so who should people believe do ylu think

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            • #76
              Originally posted by Shape up View Post
              For the second part, samples of 66 Mexican soccer players were analyzed. In 89% ofthese volunteers, clenbuterol was detectable in their hair at concentrations between 0.02 and 1.90 pg/mg. A comparison of bothparts showed no statistical difference between sub-the****utic application and contamination

              So 66 athletes that were not given clen in 2014 had their hair tested and 89 percent came back positive yet here we are 5 years down the track and you think the testing is worse, really, conte on one hand says its so accurate but then it isnt, more like he had a golden handshake from goldenboy to rectify canelos image, you forget the guys running this test are specialists in this field aswell with no bias, conte has already shown he is willing to be dirty so who should people believe do ylu think
              is obvious what you want to believe, cant do nothing about it...
              if i see another expert refuting what conte says or even refuting canelos hair test then im willing to change my point of view...

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              • #77
                Canelo is innocent. He did better in the rematch with GGG

                and he went through the most strict testing in that one

                that convinced me it was all the tainted beef.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by Sleeks View Post
                  It makes little to no sense use clen 3 months out from a fight. The only time you would use it 3 months out from a fight would be if you put on way too much fat in your time off but from his instagram we know Canelo was already trim when he entered camp.
                  So he could have been on before he entered camp..

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by icha View Post
                    is obvious what you want to believe, cant do nothing about it...
                    if i see another expert refuting what conte says or even refuting canelos hair test then im willing to change my point of view...
                    That experiment refutes it, done by SPECIALISTS IN THAT FIELD, even bob bennett said that this test doesnt prove he wasnt juicing on the advise of specialists from the WADA lab

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by Shape up View Post
                      That experiment refutes it, done by SPECIALISTS IN THAT FIELD, even bob bennett said that this test doesnt prove he wasnt juicing on the advise of specialists from the WADA lab
                      studies are just that, bennett suspended canelo and he is no expert, i wouldnt expect less from him, but conte has no dog in this fight... you guys prefer to call conte a liar then so be it...

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