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  • Jab jab boom
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    #41
    Originally posted by BigStomps
    Mayweather still had controversial decions go his way. Maybe not as much as Canelo but still has some.
    Never heard Bread mention it.
    As far as Wilder then why not say it?? Why does he want people to read between the lines on what he thinks???
    Why not come out and just say it like he does when it involves Canelo??
    Cause he's biased. That's why!
    bread scored Floyd vs maidana 1 for maidana. Not sure about castillo because that was much longer ago. For wilder, you really can't compare the money that wilder generates to what Canelo generates. Wilder vs fury sold about 300k on ppv. To say wilder has a machine behind him the way canelo does is inaccurate. 2 different levels of popularity. Thats like comparing pac getting a controversial win because he's the A side and saying it's the same thing if Crawford were to get a controversial win as an A side. 2 different levels of entitlement. One is a star, the other is a superstar.

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    • Bda31175
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      #42
      I prefer to operate in a reality where Canelo was living la vita loca PRE camp and popped for cut Tony Montana.

      "But coke's not a against the rules is it??"

      "Si, Canelo. SI."

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      • aboutfkntime
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        #43
        Originally posted by BeLikeWater
        He said canelo has a machine behind him and imolied his fights are unfairly scored. Ridiculous.


        no, he correctly pointed out that Canelo is a superstar, so he obviously does have a machine behind him..... with connections like GBP/DAZN/etc

        and he said that automatically means more eyes are watching him than his opponent..... which means that he could receive favourable scoring..... not, will always receive unfair scoring..... like you said

        you guys are just being a little too critical/sensitive

        I think bread called it **** on, as usual



        I've seen fighters deducted for holding so I don't get why Floyd gets a wwe pass. Look at that fight again. When are you allowed to completely hold another fighters arms when they punch you? Ridiculous.


        true..... but, that is all part of the game..... these guys are taught how to fight in the clinch, and to avoid it..... fair call, there needs to be a consistent ruling..... some refs allow it to a point, some will not

        ..... the point is, it is up to the fighter to adapt to the referee..... not the other way around.....



        With regards to canelo, why do you think he needs to prove himself again. Look at canelo vs other fighters in the weight class. Who has more tip name wins? Lemme rephrase that, who has ANY top name wins. It's a stagnant class thanks to pbc. Canelo is head and shoulders and possibly hips above all others in terms if competition and resumes.


        because I am a BIG fan, and because I believe that Canelo could be great..... so I want him to prove it

        like the situation with Golovkin, where all he left in boxing is questions..... I want Canelo to leave answers

        climbing those mountains is what makes a great fighter real..... lets find out

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        • kushking
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          #44
          Originally posted by Jab jab boom
          Canelo wouldn't get tested until his fights were signed so it wasn't yr round until he got busted. When he got caught, he was scheduled to fight in May vs ggg and the positive test happened in mid February. Vada stated, that was the furthest out from a fight that they had ever tested Canelo and the first time they tested him in Mexico. Those are facts. For may fights, his testing usually started in March (60 days out from the fight.) and then they'd test him randomly after that point.
          You truly are dumb,if canelo wanted to cheat & got caught because he was tested earlier than usual,that would mean he wasn't expecting to get tested,that's Bs when he was in the middle of yr Rd Vada testing as he had been doing to be eligible for rankings. So how fggin dumb are you to use that lame ass motive,if he wanted to cheat he would've done it vs Jr who was crying that he didn't want Vada,Canelo could've juiced to the gills then fought ggg afterwards,but your dumb ass believes he instead chose to use the most infintismally small amount of Clen in the middle of yr Rd Vada testing he demanded.(Clen being the lamest of all peds that offers no real benefits to a fighter when taken in large doses let alone nanograms consistent with Mexican beef)

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          • aboutfkntime
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            #45
            Originally posted by BeLikeWater
            So couldn't you say that about every fighter? Pbc Showtime fox toptank ESPN?

            Ridiculous and biased statement.



            no, Canelo is a genuine superstar

            there is nobody even close except maybe Joshua

            we saw that last weekend with the Pac/Broner numbers, who are both big attractions..... Canelo nearly pulled those numbers with Beefy Smith, and he pulled nearly double those numbers with Khan

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              #46
              Originally posted by BeLikeWater
              Your arguement is invalid though because gbp has a smaller footprint than fox ESPN and Showtime.



              then they should have thrown more than 365M at Canelo when HBO quit

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                #47
                Originally posted by Jab jab boom
                bread scored Floyd vs maidana 1 for maidana. Not sure about castillo because that was much longer ago. For wilder, you really can't compare the money that wilder generates to what Canelo generates. Wilder vs fury sold about 300k on ppv. To say wilder has a machine behind him the way canelo does is inaccurate. 2 different levels of popularity. Thats like comparing pac getting a controversial win because he's the A side and saying it's the same thing if Crawford were to get a controversial win as an A side. 2 different levels of entitlement. One is a star, the other is a superstar.



                yep !

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                • BeLikeWater
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                  no, he correctly pointed out that Canelo is a superstar, so he obviously does have a machine behind him..... with connections like GBP/DAZN/etc

                  and he said that automatically means more eyes are watching him than his opponent..... which means that he could receive favourable scoring..... not, will always receive unfair scoring..... like you said

                  you guys are just being a little too critical/sensitive

                  I think bread called it **** on, as usual







                  true..... but, that is all part of the game..... these guys are taught how to fight in the clinch, and to avoid it..... fair call, there needs to be a consistent ruling..... some refs allow it to a point, some will not

                  ..... the point is, it is up to the fighter to adapt to the referee..... not the other way around.....







                  because I am a BIG fan, and because I believe that Canelo could be great..... so I want him to prove it

                  like the situation with Golovkin, where all he left in boxing is questions..... I want Canelo to leave answers

                  climbing those mountains is what makes a great fighter real..... lets find out
                  Fights will be close when you fight the best. He could have taken the path of the charlos or Andrades, looking spectacular fighting bums but he's on a different level.

                  Your machine comment is irrelevant because obviously fighters have ESPN topp tank pbc Showtime and fox which are bugger platforms than dazn.

                  Breadbag said Mayweather schooled pac when pac was more effective with his punches and stunned may when all may did was get away with holding arms. That's bias. And it's ridiculous.breadbag is ok but he has a clear bias he needs to address if he wants to elevate himself.past a website article every two weeks.

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                  • BeLikeWater
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                    then they should have thrown more than 365M at Canelo when HBO quit
                    That's doesn't make sense... Gbp is smaller than Showtime and fox... Recognize this fact.

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                    • aboutfkntime
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by BeLikeWater
                      Fights will be close when you fight the best. He could have taken the path of the charlos or Andrades, looking spectacular fighting bums but he's on a different level.


                      yep

                      which is why I expect more

                      there are talk'ers, and there are do'ers

                      luckily, Canelo is a do'er



                      Your machine comment is irrelevant because obviously fighters have ESPN topp tank pbc Showtime and fox which are bugger platforms than dazn.


                      it is not about who has the biggest platform

                      it is about how much money can you generate

                      Canelo is a SUPERSTAR..... we saw that with the Pac/Broner numbers



                      Breadbag said Mayweather schooled pac when pac was more effective with his punches and stunned may when all may did was get away with holding arms. That's bias. And it's ridiculous.breadbag is ok but he has a clear bias he needs to address if he wants to elevate himself.past a website article every two weeks.


                      Pac was not more effective with his punches, Mayweather controlled that fight..... Pac got handled

                      not dominated, not even outclassed..... just handled

                      I know what bread meant

                      you guys are being way too sensitive/critical

                      come on man, bread will start talking to us like we are kids if we don't harden up

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