Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Canelo-Jacobs, Pacquiao, Trinidad, More

[BeLikeWater]

From a black man, men rarely use the word towards women. And to clarify the use in his vernacular, that word could be replaced with sucker or mfer very easily. It’s a word for insulting a person in that context, but the racial connotation isn’t what’s important in the phrase it’s the adjectives

Lol sucka hasn't been used since the afro..

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It's a big issue in Mexican meat. Whether you find it relevant or not is irrelevant. The fact exists clen is used in cows. Humans eat cows.

And why would canelo need clen if he never gets fat. Have u ever seen a picture if a fat canelo? Buddy he wins with skill not with brawn get over it.

I didn't say he wasn't skilled but he does walk around over 180 which means he has to drop over 20 pounds every time he fights at mw. Not an easy task. So to act as if he has no reason to take clen is not being realistic. As far as Mexican meat, that was a big problem.... Back in 2012. Ask your self, how many Mexican athletes have you heard of testing positive for clen in Mexico within the 2 yrs before Canelo tested positive and since? Yet somehow mexicos biggest money making star couldn't avoid cheap beef? Sure.

[BeLikeWater]

I didn't say he wasn't skilled but he does walk around over 180 which means he has to drop over 20 pounds every time he fights at mw. Not an easy task. So to act as if he has no reason to take clen is not being realistic. As far as Mexican meat, that was a big problem.... Back in 2012. Ask your self, how many Mexican athletes have you heard of testing positive for clen in Mexico within the 2 yrs before Canelo tested positive and since? Yet somehow mexicos biggest money making star couldn't avoid cheap beef? Sure.

Oh so you have done scientific studies and concluded that all suppliers in Mexico don't use clen? Is that it?

First off Mexican meat is healthier than American meat even with clean. Most countries have bans on American beef and chicken including the European Union.

Canelo had bad luck. It's safe to say he's professional enough to manage his weight without ped. He just did it again with no issues from vada. And yeah he took vada tests and didn't do the avoidance loophole ala Charlos.

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Oh so you have done scientific studies and concluded that all suppliers in Mexico don't use clen? Is that it?

First off Mexican meat is healthier than American meat even with clean. Most countries have bans on American beef and chicken including the European Union.

Canelo had bad luck. It's safe to say he's professional enough to manage his weight without ped. He just did it again with no issues from vada. And yeah he took vada tests and didn't do the avoidance loophole ala Charlos.

no, what's safe to say is he purposely used to clen to his benefit. If you want to be gullible and believe otherwise then that's on you, but just know that you're in the minority in thinking it was just "bad luck". You're not convincing me that he just happened to fall into a less than 1% category. There are other Mexican athletes who have flat out laughed at his excuse. He cheated, got caught, end of story.

[BeLikeWater]

no, what's safe to say is he purposely used to clen to his benefit. If you want to be gullible and believe otherwise then that's on you, but just know that you're in the minority in thinking it was just "bad luck". You're not convincing me that he just happened to fall into a less than 1% category. There are other Mexican athletes who have flat out laughed at his excuse. He cheated, got caught, end of story.

And he performed at the same level or higher post vada incedent. So he needs ped for what exactly?

You're references to Mexican athletes and clean sources is vague but his performances are clear though so..

[Shadoww702]

I didn't say he wasn't skilled but he does walk around over 180 which means he has to drop over 20 pounds every time he fights at mw. Not an easy task. So to act as if he has no reason to take clen is not being realistic. As far as Mexican meat, that was a big problem.... Back in 2012. Ask your self, how many Mexican athletes have you heard of testing positive for clen in Mexico within the 2 yrs before Canelo tested positive and since? Yet somehow mexicos biggest money making star couldn't avoid cheap beef? Sure.

Almost every boxer fights at 2 weight classes lower or more than walk around weight.

Hurd
Charlos both
Spence
Brook
Jaime
Thurman


Very few fight where they belong like pac and Floyd

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And he performed at the same level or higher post vada incedent. So he needs ped for what exactly?

You're references to Mexican athletes and clean sources is vague but his performances are clear though so..

Barry bonds was super elite without roids. Still felt the need to use them. Reason why people use them is up for debate, positive tests.. Not so much.

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Almost every boxer fights at 2 weight classes lower or more than walk around weight.

Hurd
Charlos both
Spence
Brook
Jaime
Thurman


Very few fight where they belong like pac and Floyd

right, but the debate was, is there a need for clen?
Does it serve any benefit? So my point is, if it helps you cut 20 pounds or more of weight, which is the worst part of training camps for boxers, of course there's incentive to use it. Not to mention the stamina benefits of it.

[Shadoww702]

right, but the debate was, is there a need for clen?
Does it serve any benefit? So my point is, if it helps you cut 20 pounds or more of weight, which is the worst part of training camps for boxers, of course there's incentive to use it. Not to mention the stamina benefits of it.

I agree. U have never seen me give Canelo a pass on that. It should only count as 1 though

If your drunk driving and get popped your still drunk in the morning also.

That was strike 2 for me with Canelo. I wont give him a 3rd

Im glad he's 100% Vada. But I still feel he owes ggg an apology

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I agree. U have never seen me give Canelo a pass on that. It should only count as 1 though

If your drunk driving and get popped your still drunk in the morning also.

That was strike 2 for me with Canelo. I wont give him a 3rd

Im glad he's 100% Vada. But I still feel he owes ggg an apology

fair enough assessment