Mark my Words: Pacquiao beats Spence

[dibzvincent143]

Fighters have their strength and weaknesses. From comparing Spence to margarito now triangle theories, really? Pacquiao schools bradley, bradley beats marquez, marquez ko's pacquiao. Crawford or spence stopping horn means exactly zilch, pacquiao stopped cotto and floyd went 12, mosley beat mayorga, mayorga beat vernon, vernon beat mosley. Pacquiao beat bradley, bradley beat marquez, marquez beat pacquiao. Zilch.

Spence would fight pacquiao like he usually does because that's how he fights, he's not a reckless fighter, his plan will be the usual, apply intelligent pressure, he'll try to stary faster than usual because Pacquiao is small and old, but he wont ever be coming in like horn, atleast not until the later rounds when he's more comfortable and warmed up, but he's likely to only do this if he has the momentum and is trying to push a stoppage or it's tight on the cards.

Likely though is that Spence doesn't have the chin to do what horn does, but im just repeating myself, lets say he does, now the problem is he has never shown to fight like Horn with elbows, headbutting, tripping, aiming for the back of the head, falling in with the head and "walking"(something a guy with findamentals like spence would never do), I dont think i've even seen Spence fight on the inside for a prolonged period if at all. You've really brewed up quite the imaginary scenerio, from a spence as big as margarito, as relentless as a ******ed horn with probably the chin and power of ggg.

Anyway, good talk. I'm bowing out and just hoping the fight happens.

Who said he’d fight like margarito or horn, as he’s better than both of them. He just needs to fight like the bigger and stronger guy with mean intentions behind his jab and defense, and not slowly approach pac like there’s no other way to pressure him than go head first, you are viewing spence as a one dimensional fighter who is not capable of making good game plans and adjusting his game.
It’s like fighting Khan and not aiming for his chin since you’re a body puncher your entire life. Your approach for every fight should depend on the fighter you’re facing and when it comes to spence against pac, it is a 40 yr old past his prime fighter who’s chin has not been tested for years and has shown he’s uncomfortable to deal with constant pressure at this point in his career.
I do believe Spence would’ve battered Broner worse. Will KO horn and matthysse as well, easier.

At the end of the day I’ll root for pac no matter who he fights, but guys like you will probably get him KOed. You don’t go fire with fire at 40
against a big prime WW. You outspeed and outsmart him and limit his opportunities to hurt you.

Everytime pac underestimates his opponent it doesn’t end well. Especially not at 40

[Legendary Hater]

I don't know if anyone else has said this yet...but...

Words marked, dumbass.

[Curtis Harper]

no he doesnt, not when the fighters are coming to him. he lunges when he has to chase after them. this will be a lot like pac vs rios and margarito.

Reaching probably a better word than lunging. Being that Pac is so ancient, I can't see this fight even happening. Moot discussion.

[dibzvincent143]

What you forgot to realize. Horn was allowed to wrestle Manny in his home country. Horn wasn't able to wrestle Crawford in the ring for 2 reasons. Crawford was prepared of Horn's dirty tactics that he got from Horn's fight with Pac, and secondly the Ref didn't allow Horn to fight dirty in US soil.

What you have to see is the physical dimensions of Pac and Crawford. Pac is a small did at 5'5" 1/2 and Horn a bigger guy in height and weight that he blows up to 165 lbs on fight night, which is basically a middleweight. So if the ref allows Horn to wrestle, Pac with his small frame will get wrestled and man handled as it showed in the fight. Horn couldn't do it with Crawford since Crawford is a tall and big welterweight than Pacquiao is, and as I've said, ref didn't allow wrestling in the ring for the Crawford fight. Which is suppose to be the right call since boxing is not wrestling. This is an art of pugilism and not crude wrestling tactics should never be allowed.. We don't watch boxing to be entertained the WWE way.

This is not boxing..




And Crawford didn't beat up Horn the way Pac did. Horn was about to go down in the 9th even with all the wrestling.



Horn's face after Crawford's fight. Pac did more damage to Horn than Crawford can ever do. It's 2 different fights, but the results shows who damaged who more.






Watch this too see how Pac dismantled horn.

I agree. On a fair and square fight with no dirty tactics old pac would have demolished horn as well.
A prime pac batters him from pillar to post.

But it doesn’t change the fact that horn will get KOed by spence no matter how he fights him wrestling or not for horn

[Spoon23]

I agree. On a fair and square fight with no dirty tactics old pac would have demolished horn as well.
A prime pac batters him from pillar to post.

But it doesn’t change the fact that horn will get KOed by spence no matter how he fights him wrestling or not for horn

And yes you should also know what makes Pac great is that he is a small dude that fights bigger men. As Horn and Spence are bigger men..That said, Pac without the ref allowing horn to wrestle would have Knocked Horn to kingdom come.

Anyway, you should factor in Spence who fights in the inside majority of the time. Pac is seldom in the inside. His a midrange fighter. Spence will come in and move forward. Pac loves that kind of fighters. Pac can use his angles and tag Spence all night.. Spence fights in a phone booth exchange. Pac won't allow that.. And that is why.. This fight is up for grabs. This is a 50/50 fight. Pac can win this equally as Spence can find that body shot to make Pac crumble.. But if Pac's legs give him the range to keep himself in mid range. Pac will win on points in a 12 round epic fight.

[Roadblock]

And yes you should also know what makes Pac great is that he is a small dude that fights bigger men. As Horn and Spence are bigger men..That said, Pac without the ref allowing horn to wrestle would have Knocked Horn to kingdom come.

Anyway, you should factor in Spence who fights in the inside majority of the time. Pac is seldom in the inside. His a midrange fighter. Spence will come in and move forward. Pac loves that kind of fighters. Pac can use his angles and tag Spence all night.. Spence fights in a phone booth exchange. Pac won't allow that.. And that is why.. This fight is up for grabs. This is a 50/50 fight. Pac can win this equally as Spence can find that body shot to make Pac crumble.. But if Pac's legs give him the range to keep himself in mid range. Pac will win on points in a 12 round epic fight.

Manny can win rounds because Errol can be hit and that wont matter because he has a great chin, Spence keeps coming and he lets his hands go, no way can Manny keep him off for 12 rnd,

Horn is the only true WW Manny has fought in years he out muscled Manny easily, Spence is a lot more complete than Horn. Spence breaks Horn down and stops him.

Mikey Garcia has more chance of beating Spence because of his precision. Manny gets stopped in a beat down.

When was the last time Manny fought an elite full blown in prime WW ? If he does now he gets beat, they fighting Broners Vargas Algieris for a reason.

[Spoon23]

Manny can win rounds because Errol can be hit and that wont matter because he has a great chin, Spence keeps coming and he lets his hands go, no way can Manny keep him off for 12 rnd,

Horn is the only true WW Manny has fought in years he out muscled Manny easily, Spence is a lot more complete than Horn. Spence breaks Horn down and stops him.

Mikey Garcia has more chance of beating Spence because of his precision. Manny gets stopped in a beat down.

When was the last time Manny fought an elite full blown in prime WW ? If he does now he gets beat, they fighting Broners Vargas Algieris for a reason.

Like I said, if Pac can be disciplined to fight in mid range he can win on points. Spence has no head movement can easily be hit as proven by how easily a slow Brook can hit him. Pac can go in and out break Spence. That said.. It's not a walk in the park. For me both can win this. Spence will have a hard time finding Pac in the midrange. While Pac will be cautious not getting body shot going in.

If Pac last 12 rounds. Pac wins this, if Spence keeps on getting his body shots in and unloads on Pac. Pac crumbles. Basically, if Pac reaches 12 rounds. It's a no brainer Pac wins this. He can. This old Pac's footwork is still better than Spence. He can still go in and out.

[daggum]

What you forgot to realize. Horn was allowed to wrestle Manny in his home country. Horn wasn't able to wrestle Crawford in the ring for 2 reasons. Crawford was prepared of Horn's dirty tactics that he got from Horn's fight with Pac, and secondly the Ref didn't allow Horn to fight dirty in US soil.

What you have to see is the physical dimensions of Pac and Crawford. Pac is a small did at 5'5" 1/2 and Horn a bigger guy in height and weight that he blows up to 165 lbs on fight night, which is basically a middleweight. So if the ref allows Horn to wrestle, Pac with his small frame will get wrestled and man handled as it showed in the fight. Horn couldn't do it with Crawford since Crawford is a tall and big welterweight than Pacquiao is, and as I've said, ref didn't allow wrestling in the ring for the Crawford fight. Which is suppose to be the right call since boxing is not wrestling. This is an art of pugilism and not crude wrestling tactics should never be allowed.. We don't watch boxing to be entertained the WWE way.

unless your name is andre ward

[daggum]

Lmao Spence walked through Brooks best shots, the same shots that shook up Golovkin. Spence could easily fight at 154. Pacquiaos punches will tickle Spence's chin. Pacquiao would get laid out vs. Spence right now.

what versions of these fights do you have? ggg walked through brooks shots and stopped him early. spence fought tentatively for the first half of the fight until slowly breaking spence down late. the way you described it is mind bobbling