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Comparing Breazeale to Ortiz? How do you think that fight would go? Remember that Joshua chose to fight Breazeale after he lost every round to small old Mansour before it had to be stopped because Mansour bit his tongue nearly in half. He could have fought Ortiz instead.Comment
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Beat the count and beat Wilder in the US.
And why are Wilder fans suddenly forgetting about the Ortiz fight? Wilder clearly got saved and was out on his feet.
Can't have it both ways
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Old Dog New Tricks
Wilder can only increase the frequency of shots he is comfortable with, he cannot introduce new shots.
The jab is one of the most beautiful punches and a fundamental strike in boxing used for a huge variety of reasons because of its versatility. I’m not sure I’ve seen Wilder effectively utilise a jab and thus attempting to introduce it now may disrupt his fighting pattern. It’s an interesting question whether Wilder can adapt and lead with a jab he certainly needs to use a larger variety punches in the rematch to include body shots. The question remains whether he has that level of arsenal in his locker and if he can use it effectively.
Wilder will need to be patient in the rematch it’s pretty clear that Fury can’t really hurt him due to his lack of power and if wilder improves his timing he may well unlock Tyson Furys defence. It’s a risky strategy as he may well be loosing on points for most parts however he may have little options as he doesn’t possess the boxing acumen to actually intelligently box Tyson Fury.
Fury has to put a bit more into his punches and probably follow up a little more to pressure Wilder. If he can add some weight and power behind them he may see better results by backing up wilder however that level of forward commitment leaves unquestionably an opening and vulnerability in the defence.
In summary Wilder has to patient and try and create openings using a frequency of jabs, body shots etc then time his knockout and fury needs to increase his pressure on Wilder and get him to back up. It changes the second fight to one where Fury is more aggressive and Wilder is less aggressive.
When I look at this rematch I would expect very little to change in the first few rounds 1-4. In the mid to late rounds I can see their individual game plans being deployed and then the championship rounds probably see the more riskier tactics as I can imagine neither fighter wants a draw. They both have to bring something new into the fight but like Teddy Atlas said at this stage these guys are who they are and cannot dramatically change because in the end they will fall back to what they are comfortable with, so they either have it or they don’t.Comment
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Its definitely Wilder that has something to prove, thats why he wanted a rematch more than the "One face" thing, and to be honest i don't blame him, Fury made him look silly at times in that fight, and i think in the rematch he would redeem himself.Comment
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Every fight Wilder fights has higher stakes than Fury or Joshua. If Wilder goes all 12 it's a bad thing. Even if he'd won that Fury fight, and I don't mean gifted I mean actually won it decisively, then I'd've still been upset he didn't KO the man Steve dropped with a Marciano move.
If Wilder rematches Fury and comes as his camp keeps telling me, more boxer and less puncher, I may leave the fanbase. I wouldn't hate him for it, but, I am a Wilder fan because I am a Marciano fan not the other way around.
I want pain from beginning to end. None of this boxing the boxer bull****. I want a constant pace that isn't designed in anyway to keep up or be competitive on points. Give Fury no time to breathe or think, just constant pressure and pain. Fury can't hit worth a ****. We seen big combos and Wilder just stood there. He can and should just walk through Fury. More athletic, tougher, stronger, that is the puncher's way.
We don't need more fencing in Wilder we need more shield. Can't get enough shield. I want shield all goddamn night and if I ain't seeing it I will be upset. Bust that limey up and move it along son.
Rocky Marciano don't know a goddamn thing about no draws. Probably because Goldman wasn't ****** enough to make him box.
At the point in his career where Wilder needs to develop his analog to Marciano's crouch we're hearing **** like "The puncher can box" out of Deas. Like **** he can, and you know what, Fury can't punch worth a **** either. Mark Breland all talking about putting away The Bomber. The ****? We got dominated until The Bomber showed up, the ****'re you all watching?
So yeah, pressure's on Wilder and Wilder's Team.
If Fury gets KTFO in the next bad he still did better than what most thought he'd do.Comment
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Couldn’t agree more!Comment
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Because I don’t think he won those rounds you mention simple! Y’all the ones who trying to convince yourself that Wilder only won two rounds! In rounds 1,2,&4 Wilder landed the more effective shots and was backing Tyson up with out taking to much shots those rounds. Why is that a problem for you? Both did well and showed their strengths! Tyson is a good Boxer but it’s hard to watch a man that big never seriously sit down and attempt to hurt his opponent! The fact that so many Amerikkkans praise him fighting that way shows some very serious double standards! He fights that way and never gets called a runner! But if a Black Amerikkkan fights that way and actually sits down on some punches they are hated for being a mover!Comment
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