Hearn releases statement on AJ fight: 10 days to find opponent.

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  • KTFOKING
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    #61
    Btw, I have no doubt Hearn made legitimate offers this time around to Wilder's team....But the elephant in the room is everyone knows the Fury rematch is next. This is the risk he made the first time around in negotiations letting it drag out and more interested in playing the PR games than actually making the fight. Hearn is under A LOT of pressure with DAZN and needs to start delivering. Wilder/Joshua fight is the one to make along with GGG/Canelo to attract the most subscribers. One problem is, Wilder's team won't want it on DAZN. All these offers he sent, did he mention in any of his interviews what network he proposed airing the fight?

    Anyways, for those saying Wilder can always fight Fury next after Joshua is not necessarily true. Isn't Hearn saying he is proposing two fight deals? If so, the Fury fight isn't happening next.

    Joshua vs Whyte
    Wilder vs Fury II

    Winners face off in early 2020 or late 2019. I know Breazeale is due his shot so that probably happens late 2019 for either Wilder or Fury, so early 2020 is more realistic.

    Joshua can then make his US debut against Miller in NYC later in the year.

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      #62
      Hearing rumors that Fury has been offered the April date....

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        #63
        Originally posted by KTFOKING
        Btw, I have no doubt Hearn made legitimate offers this time around to Wilder's team....But the elephant in the room is everyone knows the Fury rematch is next. This is the risk he made the first time around in negotiations letting it drag out and more interested in playing the PR games than actually making the fight. Hearn is under A LOT of pressure with DAZN and needs to start delivering. Wilder/Joshua fight is the one to make along with GGG/Canelo to attract the most subscribers. One problem is, Wilder's team won't want it on DAZN. All these offers he sent, did he mention in any of his interviews what network he proposed airing the fight?

        Anyways, for those saying Wilder can always fight Fury next after Joshua is not necessarily true. Isn't Hearn saying he is proposing two fight deals? If so, the Fury fight isn't happening next.

        Joshua vs Whyte
        Wilder vs Fury II

        Winners face off in early 2020 or late 2019. I know Breazeale is due his shot so that probably happens late 2019 for either Wilder or Fury, so early 2020 is more realistic.

        Joshua can then make his US debut against Miller in NYC later in the year.
        wilder can fight fury next if he wants. i don't think that would be a problem, to be honest. wilder's team won't even respond to any offers, even after admitting that Joshua is begging for a fight.

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          #64
          Originally posted by that g
          wilder can fight fury next if he wants. i don't think that would be a problem, to be honest. wilder's team won't even respond to any offers, even after admitting that Joshua is begging for a fight.
          Because it is clear their attention is fully on the Fury rematch. This is why all these legitimate offers now mean little. You have Wilder/Fury/Warren/Finkel/Espinoza all talking rematch.

          This is the same type of energy Hearn should have had the first time around. Then he would have gotten his undisputed HW match up. Now obviously there is so much pressure all around on Hearn to make a huge fight for Joshua next and he understands there is buzz for the Wilder/Fury fight that he wants to eliminate. No one is now saying it is Joshua or bust at HW. A lot of fans are talking about Wilder/Fury II and it is killing Hearn on the inside. Doesn't have the same type of leverage anymore.

          He needs to just sit back and let Wilder/Fury II play out and then go for the winner. First he said he was going to keep quiet but now is getting frustrated and letting everything out....Glad it lasted a full month of silence lol.

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            #65
            Originally posted by SuperHanz
            Hearing rumors that Fury has been offered the April date....
            Rumors? It came right out of the horse's mouth lol. Hearn said offers have been sent to Wilder/Fury/Whyte and either can accept it and get Joshua in April.

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              #66
              Originally posted by KTFOKING
              Because it is clear their attention is fully on the Fury rematch. This is why all these legitimate offers now mean little. You have Wilder/Fury/Warren/Finkel/Espinoza all talking rematch.

              This is the same type of energy Hearn should have had the first time around. Then he would have gotten his undisputed HW match up. Now obviously there is so much pressure all around on Hearn to make a huge fight for Joshua next and he understands there is buzz for the Wilder/Fury fight that he wants to eliminate. No one is now saying it is Joshua or bust at HW. A lot of fans are talking about Wilder/Fury II and it is killing Hearn on the inside. Doesn't have the same type of leverage anymore.

              He needs to just sit back and let Wilder/Fury II play out and then go for the winner. First he said he was going to keep quiet but now is getting frustrated and letting everything out....Glad it lasted a full month of silence lol.
              hearn didn't have energy when he was on social media almost everyday in 2018 asking for meetings?

              if "all their attention is fully on the fury rematch", with no ability to respond to emails at all, then they are the most incompetent management company in history. before the fury fight, it was, "wait till after the fight", like they need 20 guys in the ring at the same time. now, it's "focusing on the rematch".

              no wonder wilder can't get a decent endorsement deal 40 "wins" into his career.

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                #67
                Originally posted by that g
                hearn didn't have energy when he was on social media almost everyday in 2018 asking for meetings?

                if "all their attention is fully on the fury rematch", with no ability to respond to emails at all, then they are the most incompetent management company in history. before the fury fight, it was, "wait till after the fight", like they need 20 guys in the ring at the same time. now, it's "focusing on the rematch".

                no wonder wilder can't get a decent endorsement deal 40 "wins" into his career.
                Oh, so Hearn was making these types of offers beforehand? He had THIS level of urgency?

                He thought he put Wilder in a corner and he had no other option but then Fury came along. And then there was a controversial ending to the fight and they will have to run it back. This is the risk of delaying the fight in the first place.

                It's okay though, the Whyte fight will do great numbers and "low balling" him on the first offer was a great strategy. Now some morons will believe Whyte when he says Joshua doesn't want the fight and then when the fight happens, they will accept it...And let's be real, the fight itself isn't bad. Whyte has some nice wins since their first meeting and does good numbers on PPV. It's just a result we all know beforehand and Whyte was dominated so badly the first time around that it takes some intrigue away from the fight.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by KTFOKING
                  Oh, so Hearn was making these types of offers beforehand? He had THIS level of urgency?

                  He thought he put Wilder in a corner and he had no other option but then Fury came along. And then there was a controversial ending to the fight and they will have to run it back. This is the risk of delaying the fight in the first place.

                  It's okay though, the Whyte fight will do great numbers and "low balling" him on the first offer was a great strategy. Now some morons will believe Whyte when he says Joshua doesn't want the fight and then when the fight happens, they will accept it...And let's be real, the fight itself isn't bad. Whyte has some nice wins since their first meeting and does good numbers on PPV. It's just a result we all know beforehand and Whyte was dominated so badly the first time around that it takes some intrigue away from the fight.
                  ok so just for clarification. what exactly is this so called "change in urgency"??? what's different now from then apart from the money offered?


                  the difference now is simply that it's just pretty clear and obvious to everyone who cares to be intellectually honest now that wilder is ducking. that's what's changed. and that's why you guys have no option but to come up with fraudulent arguments like "where was this before?" or "oh now now wanna offer splits...?" or "the world knows the fury rematch is next..."

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                    Originally posted by that g
                    ok so just for clarification. what exactly is this so called "change in urgency"??? what's different now from then apart from the money offered?


                    the difference now is simply that it's just pretty clear and obvious to everyone who cares to be intellectually honest now that wilder is ducking. that's what's changed. and that's why you guys have no option but to come up with fraudulent arguments like "where was this before?" or "oh now now wanna offer splits...?" or "the world knows the fury rematch is next..."
                    What is different? He is getting his a$$ handed to him over the DAZN deal and isn't delivering what he promised. He desperately needs to get Joshua one of these mega fights, preferably against Wilder. He needs to get GGG signed to HIM so he can match him with Jacobs/Canelo/etc. The GBP/DAZN changed the entire dynamic among other things.

                    Hearn for damn near the first time ever wasn't able to win the PR battle last time around. Wilder/Fury delivered and created buzz. It's not only Joshua around anymore. You can still get paid huge money fighting someone else. Fans also started turning on Joshua for the first time and started to say he was ducking.

                    Hearn also knows if the Wilder/Fury rematch is made, there is a good chance Joshua doesn't get the winner until 2020.

                    So yeah, there are obvious reasons for having more urgency now than in the past.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by KTFOKING
                      What is different? He is getting his a$$ handed to him over the DAZN deal and isn't delivering what he promised. He desperately needs to get Joshua one of these mega fights, preferably against Wilder. He needs to get GGG signed to HIM so he can match him with Jacobs/Canelo/etc. The GBP/DAZN changed the entire dynamic among other things.

                      Hearn for damn near the first time ever wasn't able to win the PR battle last time around. Wilder/Fury delivered and created buzz. It's not only Joshua around anymore. You can still get paid huge money fighting someone else. Fans also started turning on Joshua for the first time and started to say he was ducking.

                      Hearn also knows if the Wilder/Fury rematch is made, there is a good chance Joshua doesn't get the winner until 2020.

                      So yeah, there are obvious reasons for having more urgency now than in the past.
                      lol this is a whole bunch of bs, and you know it. the question is simple. what exactly is the difference in the urgency, tempo, and aggressiveness with the wilder offers between now and earlier last year, specific to deontay wilder? that's what you said, that there is a difference in urgency. what exactly is different? is he showing up at deontay wilder's house unannounced, on his knees, crying?

                      i didn't ask you to give me a soliloquy on dazn, or on how deontay has raised his profile on the back of calling out antony joshua.

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