Comments Thread For: Canelo vs. Golovkin Trilogy Targeted For May 4, Says De La Hoya

[Mindgames]

Golovkin is a heralded puncher

unless you need to somehow deny that, for the purpose of this conversation?

Golovkin did not stop Jacobs or Canelo, did he ?

are you saying that Golovkin mysteriously stopped being a puncher when he stepped up in class?..... or do top fighters know how to deal with a puncher?

I told you that power is over-rated

I told you that this conversation is pointless lol

Canelo's supposed lack of stoppages has more to do with him selecting higher-level opponents than Golovkin..... he certainly had no problem stopping the lower-level SMW Rocky Fielding

and Golovkin's power would have suddenly re-emerged, had he selected Rocky Fielding

like I always say... casuals don't understand styles, levels, weight

Canelo is the very textbook definition of a boxer/puncher

if he is not a puncher, then neither is Hypekin







no, I never said that you are white

I said that you are a dumb casual fan

which is much worse

btw, casuals come in all shapes and sizes







you saw gay..... pretty much everywhere

you ***** little fruit

people see what they want to see

so..... cut the h0m0 talk kid, you are projecting







you mean, like..... Timidkin ?

and, Jabkin..... ?

No, the thing is, Canelo isnt a puncher because he only stops fragile men. When he fought older smaller natural welters they tended to take him the distance. When he fought anyone who was world level, and not fragile, he went the distance. He isnt stopping them. Therefore, hes not a puncher. Certainly not the guy who knocks Golovkin out cold like Oscar says before each fight. This is the myth of Canelo the puncher. Dont embarrass yourself talking about Rocky Fielding, stopped in a round by a prospect in Smith, and nowhere near world class. Canelo doesnt stop middles, Golovkin does, durable men like Murray, full sized middles. Let me know when Canelo does and we'll look at it again. Canelos not stopping Danny and you know it. As for the gay stuff, you're the guy who talks about mens sacks. Its out there, you cant take it back. We can all see it. All the name calling now really is obvious projection. The other thing that makes it obvious is your obsession with one man. Btw, you did think i was white, that's why you started talking Kovalev, Matthyse ect. They had nothing to do with the convo, its a racial thing on here with those fighters, and people who cant accept them losing, everyone knows it. You just thought you were clever. Anyway internet tough guy, carry on, your well hard, we're all so impressed. Shame you aint so tough with the local kids that bully you down the shops hey? Hahaha.. 😉

[Mindgames]

Canelo is highly skilled

be a shame if he fell in love with his power

I doubt that his team would allow that kind of lapse

power is only part of his game, Mindgames is just being silly

again

Yeah, he purposely dont stop people who arent fragile and stopped in a round. It would be a lapse to score a knockout. Oscar just talks about him knocking people out before fights to remind him not to do it. That's pretty smart, aboutfkntime we worked it out 😂

[Mindgames]

This dude is off his rocker. We all need to consider his mental health at this point. Let this dude chill for a while guys.

I know its wrong but i cant help it.. 😂

[Thuglife Nelo]

No, the thing is, Canelo isnt a puncher because he only stops fragile men. When he fought older smaller natural welters

Who were these natural welters? What year? How old was Canelo, and was he the Canelo size of 2017? Why do boxing fans think that boxers from their early 20's wouldn't simply grow or get bigger just like any other current P4P fighter who's a multiple weight division champ. Why isn't Lomachenko criticized for fighting Rigo who was a "smaller" etc.. Loma vs Rigo at 124lbs was talked about long ago, 3 years later the midget had no choice but to accept 130lbs for the payday and there was still a rehydration clause.

And regarding "Canelo only stops fragile men" is that the same thing as fighters like Golovkin "stopping" in their tracks to respect Canelo's power and fight strictly with a jab?

[Thuglife Nelo]

Canelos not stopping Danny and you know it.

You'd think fighter's in their prime review tape, fighter's whom are the elite of counterpunching, wouldn't attempt openings down the middle? Surely Sergio Mora or Sulecki who could find openings CLEARLY means Canelo Alvarez won't able to find that chin?

Try and be realistic.

[Mindgames]

Let's be honest, first, Golovkin could easily fight at 168, and if by MIRACLE he does EXCELLENT in 2 fights at 168 still KO'ng his opponents, it again proves that many were correct that he repressed his ability staying at 160 for so long, mismanaged and why Loeffler is out of the picture. Therefore, if GGG's true power is at 168, he could very well attempt 175 for 1 fight and retire.

A lot of GGG fans never accepted that a fighter being repressed in a lower weight by design means that their full power is actually at the weights above. This is good because a full sized GGG Hulk could be lurking at 168+. This is why GGG diehards were the worst to debate with because they swore on the 160 narrative they were sold on.

Now having said all that, GGG is hard to destroy in the ring. It takes PUNCHERS to really get his respect, and this comes from guys like Canelo, Jacobs or even Lemieux (though sloppy...David has been a 168 fighter for a long time).

So we know Oscar for months said, "this fight will definitely have a knockout" as well as many others predicted considering the fire power at hand, and of course Oscar would want to publicize that their golden goose will attempt to KO GGG, that's their job and Canelo is team. On the other hand, team GGG, Abel, also predicted a KO by whoever, those things didn't happen.

All that proves is that both ARE PUNCHERS. It takes a guys like Canelo or a Jacobs to attempt their best to limit GGG's assault. Though imo a 168 GGG is a different story. This is why its imperative that GGG, Canelo, Jacobs, Charlo, Andrade, all these guys need to move to 168 and get down. I feel GGG to be the strongest of them all.

But GGG fans will say "but there's no money at 168" even though Haymon could make GGG vs Plant with record breaking numbers on Fox.

I think the difference is that Golovkin stops middles, pretty durable big ones like Murray who can take good hard hitting Supermiddles like Groves the distance. He stops guys at hes weight, and guys who come up like Brook dont extend him. Welters extend Canelo, weight drained shadows like Chavez extend Canelo. And Canelo lands big shots on guys and they go nowhere. Guys like Golovkin are slow, dont always get the big shots in. But when they do, like Macklin, Murray, Lemiuex, Monroe, they het hurt and stopped. Only guys stopped in a round get flattened by Canelo. Again, hes a great fighter, ive got no problem with the rematch, and think he beats Jacobs, although he can easily lose it too. Just the other nutter thinks that makes you a Golovkintard ��

[Mindgames]

You'd think fighter's in their prime review tape, fighter's whom are the elite of counterpunching, wouldn't attempt openings down the middle? Surely Sergio Mora or Sulecki who could find openings CLEARLY means Canelo Alvarez won't able to find that chin?

Try and be realistic.

But why expect Canelo to stop Danny when he hasnt stopped anyone he's own size who wasnt fragile or clearly not world level? Lara, Trout, drained Chavez, old hittable Golovkin,smaller men in Cotto, Mayweather, Mosley.. why big strong fast Danny, whos just had no problem going 12 with GGG and Derevyanchenko? Why should he take out Danny but none of the above? Its only Khan, Kirkland, Smith, Fielding, three stopped in a round, none remotely the level of Jacobs. Why?

[Thuglife Nelo]

I think the difference is that Golovkin stops middles, pretty durable big ones like Murray who can take good hard hitting Supermiddles like Groves the distance. He stops guys at hes weight, and guys who come up like Brook dont extend him. Welters extend Canelo, weight drained shadows like Chavez extend Canelo. And Canelo lands big shots on guys and they go nowhere. Guys like Golovkin are slow, dont always get the big shots in. But when they do, like Macklin, Murray, Lemiuex, Monroe, they het hurt and stopped. Only guys stopped in a round get flattened by Canelo. Again, hes a great fighter, ive got no problem with the rematch, and think he beats Jacobs, although he can easily lose it too. Just the other nutter thinks that makes you a Golovkintard ��

Brook is a 154 fighter. With Ingle, he was a UFC 30lbs deprived fighter at 147. This is why Brook looked like Alvarado with the worst sunken eyes in the game. Brook at 154 has his natural speed. This is why he gave GGG his best showing, but Golovkin has fought dink shots his whole career with many 154 fighters too at 160. By design, GGG was to carry Brook several rounds until he folded and just wanted to get him out of there due to embarrassment. Again, Loeffler is out of the picture. I'm sure all these cryptic theories are most likely the case. GGG was mismanaged and did things they he probably thought were awkward, like the Mexican Style gimmick. GGG should've been given more respect. He's a great Kazakh boxer and he deserved to have been marketed as one of the best Kazakh boxers of his era.

[Mindgames]

Who were these natural welters? What year? How old was Canelo, and was he the Canelo size of 2017? Why do boxing fans think that boxers from their early 20's wouldn't simply grow or get bigger just like any other current P4P fighter who's a multiple weight division champ. Why isn't Lomachenko criticized for fighting Rigo who was a "smaller" etc.. Loma vs Rigo at 124lbs was talked about long ago, 3 years later the midget had no choice but to accept 130lbs for the payday and there was still a rehydration clause.

And regarding "Canelo only stops fragile men" is that the same thing as fighters like Golovkin "stopping" in their tracks to respect Canelo's power and fight strictly with a jab?

Fragile men, Khan, Kirkland, Fielding, all stopped in a round by non champions. Guys dont become punchers because they get older and heavier as a rule. What happened with all the middles Canelo has fought? Other than stopped in a round Fielding. Cotto, Golovkin, Chavez, wheres the stoppage. Making a guy respect you doesn't make you what we call a puncher in boxing. Is Pernell Whitaker a puncher? He made Chavez respect him, backed him up. Is he a puncher now?

[Thuglife Nelo]

But why expect Canelo to stop Danny when he hasnt stopped anyone he's own size who wasnt fragile or clearly not world level? Lara, Trout, drained Chavez, old hittable Golovkin,smaller men in Cotto, Mayweather, Mosley.. why big strong fast Danny, whos just had no problem going 12 with GGG and Derevyanchenko? Why should he take out Danny but none of the above? Its only Khan, Kirkland, Smith, Fielding, three stopped in a round, none remotely the level of Jacobs. Why?

To answer all these questions. Let’s be honest, fighters improve... especially Canelo is in his prime. We don’t need theoretical to ask why didn’t Crawford KO Burns if he could KO Horn. Crawford is older than Canelo and same age as the Welters already at 147. Crawford was drained by design at 135 for Top Rank gain. Crawford is still a high favorite at 147, nobody is bringing up his past for doubts even though he is 4 years older than Caneloz. So bringing up Lara, Mosley etc bruh that’s all old man..

Fighters improve. Stop acting like Jacobs isn’t stoppable. Jacobs is a 168 fighters, his power is deprived at 160. These factors make a difference in the ring. You think Truax or Eubank Jr. at 168 going 12 with Groves or beating an old Abraham has nothing to do with comfortable power at 168?