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  • #31
    Originally posted by Boxing1012 View Post
    All I know is what I saw when I watched the fight...and I think Floyd realized he was old/slow (relatively speaking) and in there against a prime, big, tough, athletic, left-handed, high fight IQ guy.

    And not being rude but those two views are a bit contradictory - saying his corner was telling Floyd to relax and let him throw himself out and he will get tired is kind of the opposite of saying Floyd carried him. The corner giving him that advice kind of backs up my view that Floyd was a little uncomfortable the first half of the fight.
    Listen the art of boxing is hit and not get hit. Can you honestly tell me if Conor was connecting with venom Floyd can casually walk him down.? Let him try that with Maidana who was also awkward. The brutal truth with Conor’s arm punches he weren’t doing s#hit there was no power so yes Floyd could afford to adopt such tactics. Yes he could have pressed the action anytime he saw fit. Conor was bamboozled. Floyd just gave him his back. Conor was lost. So his Corner were well in their right to say let Conor punch himself out. This was because he panicked and used a lot of unnecessary energy throwing punches when Floyd was stepping Forward. It’s not Conor’s fault as he is not experienced enough to know. He was gassed by the 7th and he took no punishment so the game plan was perfectly administered . Nothing to brag about because that is supposed to happen. I suppose you can say Conor won the early rounds if that is any consolation

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    • #32
      Maybe if Connor was talented enough, he wouldn’t have been held down for 4 minutes in the first rd while Khabib was trying to establish offense.

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      • #33
        Paulie comes off so jealous every time this gets stirred back up. It's pathetic. Same trolling he did against Pacman. Paulie , just stick to your day job.

        On a side note, Conor should exploit Paulie and fight him in MMA Lol

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Noelanthony View Post
          Listen the art of boxing is hit and not get hit. Can you honestly tell me if Conor was connecting with venom Floyd can casually walk him down.? Let him try that with Maidana who was also awkward. The brutal truth with Conor’s arm punches he weren’t doing s#hit there was no power so yes Floyd could afford to adopt such tactics. Yes he could have pressed the action anytime he saw fit. Conor was bamboozled. Floyd just gave him his back. Conor was lost. So his Corner were well in their right to say let Conor punch himself out. This was because he panicked and used a lot of unnecessary energy throwing punches when Floyd was stepping Forward. It’s not Conor’s fault as he is not experienced enough to know. He was gassed by the 7th and he took no punishment so the game plan was perfectly administered . Nothing to brag about because that is supposed to happen. I suppose you can say Conor won the early rounds if that is any consolation
          When responding to someone who was responding to/in a discussion with someone else, it is good practice to go back and read the original posts so you can be informed. I recommend you do that in the future.

          As I mentioned in my previous posts - people can analyze the Floyd/McGregor fight however they want. But it was clear Conor won the first few rounds and 4-1 to Conor after 5 was probably the correct score.

          I was certainly not expecting that going in, and I have to give Conor credit for that. And I don't think Floyd would carry anyone if he could have gotten him out of there. Carrying someone is a horrible idea in a fight/boxing match. Floyd would know that. You never know what can happen, and Floyd knows protecting his 0 is imperative to his future money-making potential.

          He seemed to have a legitimate deer in headlights look in the early rounds, imo, for the reasons I mentioned. But again the fact that Conor was ahead early is without doubt. Reasonable people could differ as to why.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Boxing1012 View Post
            When responding to someone who was responding to/in a discussion with someone else, it is good practice to go back and read the original posts so you can be informed. I recommend you do that in the future.

            As I mentioned in my previous posts - people can analyze the Floyd/McGregor fight however they want. But it was clear Conor won the first few rounds and 4-1 to Conor after 5 was probably the correct score.

            I was certainly not expecting that going in, and I have to give Conor credit for that. And I don't think Floyd would carry anyone if he could have gotten him out of there. Carrying someone is a horrible idea in a fight/boxing match. Floyd would know that. You never know what can happen, and Floyd knows protecting his 0 is imperative to his future money-making potential.

            He seemed to have a legitimate deer in headlights look in the early rounds, imo, for the reasons I mentioned. But again the fact that Conor was ahead early is without doubt. Reasonable people could differ as to why.
            With all due respect I’m not really concerned what went on prior to your post I am responding based on what you are writing. As you eloquently stated you are simply illustrating your opinion and I am jotting down mine.

            Thankfully we can both agree irrespective of how convinced you are about what you stated nothing is fact.

            You claim the early rounds Floyd seemed like a deer in headlights and the fact Conor was ahead consolidates your thinking. What facial expressions did Mayweather show or what tell tale signs in his disposition would suggest that to you? Never mind that’s a rhetorical question,let’s move on to another questionable assessment of yours. You vehemently claimed Floyd wouldn’t carry anyone simply because in your words carrying a fighter isn’t logical but you are basing your verdict on what exactly? Personally Walking forward putting your hands up not throwing any punches knowing full well Floyd has never fought like that would suggest he sees this competition as inferior. Again seeing that I can’t accurately say he was carrying Conor

            Lastly if I predicted Floyd would knock out Conor in 1 round and he ended up going 10 rounds do I give Conor credit or did I overestimate Floyd’s knockout ability?

            So to conclude I’m well within my rights to question your words if I disagree with what you wrote. This is after all a forum if I’m not mistaken. More people may rationalise with what you wrote so you will at least feel vindicated. Calm down big fella

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Boxing1012 View Post
              All I know is what I saw when I watched the fight...and I think Floyd realized he was old/slow (relatively speaking) and in there against a prime, big, tough, athletic, left-handed, high fight IQ guy.

              And not being rude but those two views are a bit contradictory - saying his corner was telling Floyd to relax and let him throw himself out and he will get tired is kind of the opposite of saying Floyd carried him. The corner giving him that advice kind of backs up my view that Floyd was a little uncomfortable the first half of the fight.
              As someone who has seen 95% of Floyd’s fights, it’s not uncommon for Floyd to give away rounds early if his opponent is using a lot of energy to do so.

              Floyd simply knows what it takes to go 12 rounds and he will only use so much energy per round. And if you want to win rounds against Floyd, you basically have to go crazy in there with your energy level and outwork him.

              Zab Judah was also up 4-1 after 5.

              Mosley prob won the first 3 rounds also.

              Floyd will weather a storm early whether than try to overcome it because he knows, nobody can keep that pace for long.

              I didn’t see a deer in headlights from Floyd. I saw the same tactics he always uses to ensure he wins a 12 round fight. McGregor’s power was nothing at all for Floyd to worry about either.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Noelanthony View Post
                With all due respect I’m not really concerned what went on prior to your post I am responding based on what you are writing. As you eloquently stated you are simply illustrating your opinion and I am jotting down mine.

                Thankfully we can both agree irrespective of how convinced you are about what you stated nothing is fact.

                You claim the early rounds Floyd seemed like a deer in headlights and the fact Conor was ahead consolidates your thinking. What facial expressions did Mayweather show or what tell tale signs in his disposition would suggest that to you? Never mind that’s a rhetorical question,let’s move on to another questionable assessment of yours. You vehemently claimed Floyd wouldn’t carry anyone simply because in your words carrying a fighter isn’t logical but you are basing your verdict on what exactly? Personally Walking forward putting your hands up not throwing any punches knowing full well Floyd has never fought like that would suggest he sees this competition as inferior. Again seeing that I can’t accurately say he was carrying Conor

                Lastly if I predicted Floyd would knock out Conor in 1 round and he ended up going 10 rounds do I give Conor credit or did I overestimate Floyd’s knockout ability?

                So to conclude I’m well within my rights to question your words if I disagree with what you wrote. This is after all a forum if I’m not mistaken. More people may rationalise with what you wrote so you will at least feel vindicated. Calm down big fella
                Thanks for your compliment on my writing. But I gotta be honest, I have no idea what you are really getting at here. I think Floyd was gunshy for the reasons I mentioned. Conor was unorthodox in 3 ways - he was lefty, a crafty fighter, and Floyd had no tape on him. Conor was in his prime, and much bigger than Floyd. I think it took old Floyd a few rounds to get moving against Conor and that's when he started walking him down. I think he also had good information that Conor would gas late so I thin that allowing him to gas and being cautious early was part of his gameplan.

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                • #38
                  "He was even *****ing in the fourth round from mount position."

                  Da **** is mount position MMA sounds gay AF

                  How you going to let a man mount you and call others ***** smdh
                  Last edited by Phenom; 01-13-2019, 04:18 PM.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by KiloTeague View Post
                    As someone who has seen 95% of Floyd’s fights, it’s not uncommon for Floyd to give away rounds early if his opponent is using a lot of energy to do so.

                    Floyd simply knows what it takes to go 12 rounds and he will only use so much energy per round. And if you want to win rounds against Floyd, you basically have to go crazy in there with your energy level and outwork him.

                    Zab Judah was also up 4-1 after 5.

                    Mosley prob won the first 3 rounds also.

                    Floyd will weather a storm early whether than try to overcome it because he knows, nobody can keep that pace for long.

                    I didn’t see a deer in headlights from Floyd. I saw the same tactics he always uses to ensure he wins a 12 round fight. McGregor’s power was nothing at all for Floyd to worry about either.
                    I think you make some good points. But my original point was that McGregor can actually box a lot better than I expected. You seem to be agreeing with that if you are putting him in the same category as Mosley and Judah.

                    I thought Conor's only chance was to bumrush Floyd and catch him with something wild. But he was actually outboxing Floyd the first part of the fight and I just did not fathom that happening. I've also seen a lot of Floyd's fights and I can recall him starting fast against other good guys too. Pacquiao, Castillo, Gatti.

                    I guess my point is that if Floyd is able to come out and dominate Pac, Castillo, and Gatti early, but can't do the same to Mosley, Judah and McGregor, I mean I have to give Conor a lot of credit for that. He did better against Floyd than Pac did and honestly about as well as I have seen anyone do against Floyd for as long as it lasted. That was not expected by me, and I don't think it was due to Floyd carrying him imo.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Boxing1012 View Post
                      Thanks for your compliment on my writing. But I gotta be honest, I have no idea what you are really getting at here. I think Floyd was gunshy for the reasons I mentioned. Conor was unorthodox in 3 ways - he was lefty, a crafty fighter, and Floyd had no tape on him. Conor was in his prime, and much bigger than Floyd. I think it took old Floyd a few rounds to get moving against Conor and that's when he started walking him down. I think he also had good information that Conor would gas late so I thin that allowing him to gas and being cautious early was part of his gameplan.
                      Let’s agree to disagree then . Conor outboxing a fighter that plodded forward and threw 4 punches in a round is not because he was a masterful boxer and he was bamboozled because he was a lefty or the other points you gave . Every man and his dog knew Conor would gas especially throwing punches repeatedly and he did. I wouldn’t rule out Paulie giving Floyd a complete diagnosis of Conor’s strengths and weaknesses so even the 1st round Floyd was totally at ease, contrary to what you claim

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