GGG really has had a disappointing career

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • sicko
    The Truth Hurts
    Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
    • May 2010
    • 34211
    • 2,594
    • 839
    • 151,307

    #11
    GGG had a great run, I can't deny him that, he dominated his ERA and while boxrec has him 0-1-1 vs Canelo most think he is 2-0 vs Canelo which is his career defining fight(s)

    HBO and some of his very ignorant fans did him a disservice trying to make the argument that he is the G.O.A.T. Middleweight Of All Time while just ignoring the great history that Division has

    Comment

    • Real King Kong
      Undisputed Champion
      Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
      • May 2010
      • 12029
      • 460
      • 24
      • 105,905

      #12
      Originally posted by Curt Henning
      yeah most of us would be happy...but reality is prob 90 percent of these guys(i may be underselling) are doing better than all of us.....but its a boxing forum where common folk discuss fighters and their careers

      and his is kinda disappointing...especially the way he was sold...by hbo...by abel...by his fans.....

      imagine crawford staying with arum for another 3 years and fighting more of the same disappointing comp...then he goes and gets say shawn porter and thurman or spence...and sc****s by porter and cant get a W against spence/thurman.....would u still think hes as good as you think he is now?
      That’s the nature of the sport these days...hype a fighter up and keep cashing in. There’s very few fighters out there that consistently take on the best available challenge. Once in a while we’re lucky enough to get a legit fight between 2 top level guys in their primes.

      Comment

      • Curt Henning
        Undisputed Champion
        Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
        • Mar 2017
        • 11440
        • 551
        • 24
        • 176,018

        #13
        Originally posted by Real King Kong
        That’s the nature of the sport these days...hype a fighter up and keep cashing in. There’s very few fighters out there that consistently take on the best available challenge. Once in a while we’re lucky enough to get a legit fight between 2 top level guys in their primes.
        yeah...thats fair....which is funny to me when you have threads where guys are still talking about floyd and how he took 1.5 years off to avoid facing about 6 different guys lol

        Comment

        • satiev1
          Undisputed Champion
          Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
          • Nov 2015
          • 4661
          • 575
          • 0
          • 78,492

          #14
          Originally posted by lparm
          A few paper titles at 160 with really only 1 of the belts earned by defeating a half decent fighter in Lemieux. He’s the king of winning vacant straps. We know he has only tested himself twice both times against the same elite opponent and arguably lost both officially one. He refused to move up to fight ward he picked smaller guys like Brook a career welter. If he never fights again his legacy is very thin with no premier wins and not even undisputed status which could’ve helped him if he chased BJS. I just can’t give the guy much credit considering how weak his resume has been.
          He was 36 when this happened.

          Comment

          • Joe Beamish
            Undisputed Champion
            Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
            • Aug 2014
            • 3475
            • 157
            • 42
            • 30,582

            #15
            Originally posted by Real King Kong
            That’s the nature of the sport these days...hype a fighter up and keep cashing in. There’s very few fighters out there that consistently take on the best available challenge. Once in a while we’re lucky enough to get a legit fight between 2 top level guys in their primes.
            So true. No reason to single out GGG as the only boxer who didn't fight the greatest possible opponents every every time.

            That applies to pretty much everyone out there. Else we'd be seeing Thurman, Crawford and Spence mixing it up right now. And Joshua would be taking on Wilder or Tyson.

            And so on.

            Comment

            • Citizen Koba
              Deplorable Peacenik
              Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
              • Jun 2013
              • 20457
              • 3,951
              • 3,801
              • 2,875,273

              #16
              Compared to how it might have been had someone like Arum or GBP signed him out of the gate then yeah it's pretty disappointing, but compared with the vast majority of fighters dude's done pretty damn well for himself.

              My main disappointment is that we'll never get to see how good he might have been had he started getting top fights at the age of 28 or 30 instead of 34 years old, but hell... I can live with it and I'm sure GGG ain't gonna be too disappointed that him and his family are set up for life.

              Most dominant MW for a decade ain't nothing to be sniffed at either, and he'll be Canastota bound for sure.

              Comment

              • boliodogs
                Undisputed Champion
                Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                • May 2008
                • 33358
                • 824
                • 1,782
                • 309,589

                #17
                Originally posted by lparm
                A few paper titles at 160 with really only 1 of the belts earned by defeating a half decent fighter in Lemieux. He’s the king of winning vacant straps. We know he has only tested himself twice both times against the same elite opponent and arguably lost both officially one. He refused to move up to fight ward he picked smaller guys like Brook a career welter. If he never fights again his legacy is very thin with no premier wins and not even undisputed status which could’ve helped him if he chased BJS. I just can’t give the guy much credit considering how weak his resume has been.
                Every day at least one GGG hater starts a thread stating how weak GGG's resume is. Proof that his resume is not weak.If it was there would be no need to say so because it would be obvious and everyone would already know it. The boxers with weak resumes never get attacked on here. It's always fighters with great records like Loma, Crawford, Mikey, GGG or Spence who get attacked on here for being overrated and having weak resumes.If GGG was an English boxer you would love him and say his resume was great. Why aren't you trashing Saunders. Everybody Saunders ever defended his title against was a guy GGG had already knocked out and Saunders couldn't even hurt them. What about Jermall and Andrade? Two so called middleweight champions with incredibly weak resumes at 160. The majority of viewers thought GGG beat Jacobs and beat Canelo twice. That would make him an undefeated boxer with wins over the two best middleweights in the world besides himself. Ward made his BS media challenge to GGG when GGG had a legally bounding contracted fight with Lemieux coming up and he couldn't fight him then. By the time GGG had KOed Lemieux Ward was fighting at 175 and had said he was never returning to 168. So you expect GGG to fight Ward at 175 which is unreasonable.

                Comment

                • boliodogs
                  Undisputed Champion
                  Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                  • May 2008
                  • 33358
                  • 824
                  • 1,782
                  • 309,589

                  #18
                  Originally posted by Randall Cunning
                  My opinion of him has changed a lot over the last 12 months or so. I defended him a lot for turning down fights as his goal was "all of the belts". Then when Saunders was wanting to fight him for "all of the belts" he turned him down, twice. Signing with PBC will prove once and for all it was all a charade, DAZN has "all of the belts", and even the TBRB no1/Ring champion at 168 is ready to fight him, if he wants to finally prove the "154-168" talk.
                  Who are you kidding? You are one of the biggest GGG haters on here. You always have been, still are, and always will be. You never defended him. Not once. All you ever do is trash the man.

                  Comment

                  • Citizen Koba
                    Deplorable Peacenik
                    Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                    • Jun 2013
                    • 20457
                    • 3,951
                    • 3,801
                    • 2,875,273

                    #19
                    Originally posted by boliodogs
                    Who are you kidding? You are one of the biggest GGG haters on here. You always have been, still are, and always will be. You never defended him. Not once. All you ever do is trash the man.
                    Think you may be getting Randall Cunning mixed up with Curt Henning, man.

                    Comment

                    • DreamFighter
                      Undisputed Champion
                      Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                      • Nov 2012
                      • 4221
                      • 119
                      • 43
                      • 54,494

                      #20
                      4 defences of the only title you won in thering doesnt make you ATG.

                      Consider. BJS has 4 defences, so if you handed him two titles for free then he has the same win depth as GGG. Noone is calling Billie Joe an HoF or ATG fr 4 defences.

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP